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In reply to the discussion: Photos of an NSA “upgrade” factory show Cisco router getting implant [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)91. That's why I wrote what I wrote.
I read what you typed. My takeaway from same in italics:
For some reason, NSA intercepting routers and cramming their own things into them is OK if it's to gather intelligence.
Why it bothers me, sans italics:
That's what Cheney and Addington and their ilk believed when they decided it was OK to turn the NSA on American citizens.
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Photos of an NSA “upgrade” factory show Cisco router getting implant [View all]
grahamhgreen
May 2014
OP
You stated where you think the NSA should be reigned in? And its operations overseen
villager
May 2014
#34
Ah yes, "the NSA isn't violating any laws! The 'courts' are keeeping them in check!"
villager
May 2014
#40
I'd imagine many more alternative exist; e.g., a dogmatic hack, possibly...
LanternWaste
May 2014
#12
after reading this thread so far, it's interesting the person trying to have an actual discussion
KittyWampus
May 2014
#77
Yes, we understand - they are spying on the wrong people, inciting wars, and destabilizing the world
grahamhgreen
May 2014
#47
No. I do understand your points. I hope you understand mine. What I'd like to see is evidence
grahamhgreen
May 2014
#102
Yes. Why? They work for me and have zero credibility. They've jumped the shark and are over their
grahamhgreen
May 2014
#104
So does a police state. They work for us. They are spying on us. They failed on 9-11 & Iraq. They
grahamhgreen
May 2014
#107
Sure, but the NSA should not be performing them. They seem to have been corrupted by the neo-cons.
grahamhgreen
May 2014
#109
Would you keep going back to the same doctors once you figured out that nothing was wrong with you,
grahamhgreen
May 2014
#111
In my view, the NSA is not providing intelligence for the American people. They are willfully
grahamhgreen
May 2014
#121
What part of the NSA Charter allows them to gather intelligence on US Citizens domestically?
Savannahmann
May 2014
#71
Except they didnt show up until after someone posted a taunt that was sure to draw them in
cstanleytech
May 2014
#44
I'm disappointed. I thought for sure you'd go with your 'there is no proof' argument.
DesMoinesDem
May 2014
#24
I object that you didn't claim that the NSA newsletter wasn't proof of anything.
DesMoinesDem
May 2014
#28
nice to see the NSA use the baby blue console cable like the rest of the world
snooper2
May 2014
#20
I'm SHOCKED, SCHOCKED I SAY That our spy agencies actually, you know, SPY! eom
MohRokTah
May 2014
#60
I would agree with you. What is described in the story does NOT violate the 4th
MohRokTah
May 2014
#58
No, the traitors who shipped all our chip manufacturing to China deserve prison!
grahamhgreen
May 2014
#53
Exactly. It's a strange, narrow panic-response, causing more and more rhetorical knots
villager
May 2014
#69