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H2O Man

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Fri Mar 30, 2012, 04:58 PM Mar 2012

Re: Trayvon Martin [View all]

I have never experienced being a young black male in the United States of America. But I do have an understanding of some of the issues involved in that reality. Part of that understanding comes from reading: Dr. Rubin "Hurricane" Carter published his second book in 2011, which contained numerous and overwhelming statistics about the percentage of young black men involved -- in a negative way -- with the nation's legal system. More, my 40+ year friendship with Rube provided an eye-opening experience in the context of John Artis and Carter's journey through hell on earth, as young black men in America.

The murder of Trayvon Martin, and the failure of the legal system to provide justice, hits me in a way that a book cannot. A significant portion of my extended famil is black- or brown-skinned. Others are red, yellow, or white, providing a wide range of experiences. And I am not trying to say that the majority of life experiences are "bad." But some have come to mind as I watch the coverage of this murder case.

At times, things are just stupid. A cashier in a "Quick-Mart" telling "nigger jokes" when a nephew is at the counter. (She was quickly fired.) Other incidents are even stranger. A report goes out that a young black man robbed a store in a community 42 miles away; ten minutes after the first report, a town cop handcuffs another nephew as a "suspect." This nephew grew up in the town, and was a well-known high school scholar-athlete. But they all look alike.

Sometimes it's deadly. I had known Marvin since I was three. On May 15, 1979, he was with his brother and two friends at a local bar. Marv's brother ALWAYS cheated at cards, and he attempted to "win" a drink in a cardgame with one of the other guys. But he got caught, and his friend freaked. He drove to his girlfriend's house, and grabbed his shotgun. He found Marvin and the other fellow smoking a joint in the parking lot. When he raised the shotgun, Marvin said to him, "Hey! I've got no problem with you!" After killing Marvin, then the friend, he went into the bar and killed Marvin's brother.

I remember going towards the funeral home a few days later. A town cop was across the street, standing next to his car, with a large shotgun in his hand. I knew him, as he is "half" Native American, and seemed okay about half of the time. So it was surreal when, as I was walking by him, he said, "Pat, what'll you all think if I'm aiming this at you when you leave the funeral home?"

The triple murder was treated a bit less harsh than it might have been, because Marvin and his brother were black. The judge hearing the case would hear another in the same month; he sentenced a college student, with no previous record, to longer for having a quarter-gram of cocaine, than he did to a triple-murderer.

I've spoken before on DU about my nephew being viciously attacked by 17 members of a racial hate group. They resented that a brown-skinned high school senior was getting a lot of press, for taking his team to win a state title. The judge hearing the case, after being told the attackers called my nephew a "dumb nigger," that he did not believe this "proved" racial animosity. What else could "dumb nigger" possibly suggest?

The leader of the gange, who admitted punching and kicking my nephew as he lay unconscious, would be sentenced for a $50 fine -- for having an open beer at the time. That was it. Leaving a brutalized teenager for dead in a dark field didn't warrent a penalty.

A few years later, a group of teens approached me to request help. Their friend, then 18, had been given a life sentence for having sex with a minor, they claimed. I told them that I had my doubts that I was hearing the whole case. But the next day, they brought me documentation for the arrest, the trial, and sentence.

Had the girl who admitted approaching this young man been two weeks older, the oral sex she performed on him would have been legal. But because he was black, and she was white, it was prosecuted as a felony. And he was indeed given a life sentence -- although his only previous legal record was for being at a party where teens had beer and pot, and which was busted by police.

I called Rubin's attorney; he had me contact the original lawyer, to see if he had made an honest effort to defend this young man. The guy was honest: he really hadn't, because he had been able to resolve a number of cases with the DA in one big deal.

This young man was not born in the USA, and English was not his first language. He had not been referred for a psychological evaluation, to determine things such as "risk factor," possible treatment, or if he even understood English well enough to allow him to assist in his own defense.

Long story short: we got him out. But only after he had spent a year in Attica. I still have the letters he sent me during the year of incarceration. And I'm happy to say he has not had a single brush with the law in the decade since being released.

I could go on and on .... even more than I have here. And I realize that many other people have many other stories that are much the same. These are the things that I think about as I watch the Zimmerman folks adding layer upon layer of lies to try to justify the murder of a black teenager who was simply minding his own business in America.

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Re: Trayvon Martin [View all] H2O Man Mar 2012 OP
nt sudopod Mar 2012 #1
Powerful, H2O Man. MarianJack Mar 2012 #2
Wow, keep on keeping on. arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #3
Thank you for sharing your powerful experiences with us. myrna minx Mar 2012 #4
Years ago, decades now, I used to think Angela Davis was over the top EFerrari Mar 2012 #5
But, NOLALady Mar 2012 #17
While racism didn't start in suburbia EFerrari Mar 2012 #21
Actually, more than 20 years... chervilant Mar 2012 #26
Mander followed that book H2O Man Mar 2012 #27
The Jeffersons went on the air in 1975, I was thinking of that show. EFerrari Mar 2012 #31
great OP as always, H2O Man ! nt steve2470 Mar 2012 #6
I gladly call you my brother ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2012 #7
Thanks for adding to the talk we're having on DU lunatica Mar 2012 #8
Thanks for this excellent post malaise Mar 2012 #9
I Don't Have A Story Like That DallasNE Mar 2012 #10
thank you seems Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #11
Thanks ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2012 #12
WTF is wrong with us/ zeemike Mar 2012 #13
America is not the same for all of us MrScorpio Mar 2012 #14
these stories just break my heart. barbtries Mar 2012 #15
I am glad all the incidents I have seen have been relatively mild, Kalidurga Mar 2012 #16
.... spanone Mar 2012 #18
I hear you, brotha. Mopar151 Mar 2012 #19
Thank you for the post, sorry about the way things are, still. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #20
Sometimes patience is not a virtue. Gregorian Mar 2012 #22
And history repeats and repeats. Thank you, my friend. Maybe one day we will babylonsister Mar 2012 #23
You don't know that it was murder, but don't let that stop you. Vattel Mar 2012 #24
It is said H2O Man Mar 2012 #29
You have no real answer. Vattel Mar 2012 #32
As the H2O Man Mar 2012 #33
I find it telling ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #37
Thanks H2O Man ewagner Mar 2012 #25
america marshall gaines Mar 2012 #28
This happened not too far from where I live coeur_de_lion Mar 2012 #30
Powerful. K&R Horse with no Name Apr 2012 #34
There are forces at work here far from targeting and killing a teenager. gordianot Apr 2012 #35
relating to the pain GETTINGTIRED Apr 2012 #36
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