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BainsBane

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90. Now that I've discovered this is all about accommodating a RW politician

Fri May 16, 2014, 10:20 PM

May 2014

I am a bit stunned. I knew that as a woman and feminist I ranked low around here, but I guess it didn't occur to me that anyone on a liberal message board would feel compelled to take up in defense of a right-wing Australian politician over people like me. A RW politicians likes the word, which means that people like me who think our experiences in anyway relevant are emblematic of the "Ugly American." Even a RW pol across the world is more important that the views and experiences of women in American offended by such language. Truly astounding.

Will we next hear that another group--say LGBT Americans--have no business being offended by references to them by RW politicians in Uganda? Or is it just women whose concerns must be subordinated to right-wingers?

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Well now I've been educated. But I probably learned something other than the intended lesson. [View all] 11 Bravo May 2014 OP

And anyone that thinks banning words will change the thinking of the people using them hobbit709 May 2014 #1

Perhaps, but that's not my point. Given the American connotation, I don't ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author hobbit709 May 2014 #17

No, it won't change people BainsBane May 2014 #13

Does that include making up definitions to words as I have seen done here in the past. hobbit709 May 2014 #21

Which words? BainsBane May 2014 #24

I didn't say it was that word. You obviously are fixated on just one word instead of many. hobbit709 May 2014 #25

What are you talking about? Squinch May 2014 #27

This OP is about one word BainsBane May 2014 #33

It is a gendered slur in Australia BainsBane May 2014 #2

An Australian says differently on the earlier thread. But no doubt ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #28

I have an inferior take on it BainsBane May 2014 #76

fwiw, I'm an Australian woman... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #78

I'm confused on the circumstances BainsBane May 2014 #82

This is the OP that kicked it off... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #84

I take this OP to be a justificatiion of the word BainsBane May 2014 #86

Shocking,, right? redqueen May 2014 #91

actually fag has a quite different meaning in the UK dsc May 2014 #81

I am more familiar with the British use BainsBane May 2014 #83

Gendered isn't a word!!! Never use it!! TransitJohn May 2014 #34

thank you. that word means the same thing all around the (english speaking) world elehhhhna May 2014 #35

No, it's not... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #77

Agreed. Warpy May 2014 #3

Word police are bullies. upaloopa May 2014 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Blanks May 2014 #43

On Twitter, several were outraged at Ricky Gervais using it. alarimer May 2014 #56

Malcolm Tucker used the c-word all the time nxylas May 2014 #71

Your outrage is noted. Squinch May 2014 #4

That was really ugly. Autumn May 2014 #5

Actually there is no (good) reason for it to have the power it has here Schema Thing May 2014 #6

So no more RAH RAH USA USA posts from you? Rex May 2014 #8

What the fuck are you going on about? 11 Bravo May 2014 #10

Like you don't know. Rex May 2014 #14

I'm curious. Could you link to what you consider to be a ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #19

We're not in Australia. n/t seaglass May 2014 #11

But the speaker of the word that initiated all of this WAS. Is that really ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #15

Why do you think it was posted here? Is that so difficult to understand? n/t seaglass May 2014 #16

That is not the same objection you voiced previously. 11 Bravo May 2014 #26

Seriously, you are going to rely on your faulty memory to paraphrase an argument I never made? seaglass May 2014 #31

Unlike you, I make no pretensions to mind-reading. 11 Bravo May 2014 #40

Can you link to what you are talking about because I just went to My Posts and I don't see any seaglass May 2014 #41

I think you hit on the problem zeemike May 2014 #74

And after all that effort you put in trying to be a good little DUer Fumesucker May 2014 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #18

Crikey mate, she's a beauty! Fumesucker May 2014 #20

Americans are bad people, unless of course the opposite is needed for the narrative. Rex May 2014 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #48

Got bored so soon? n/t seaglass May 2014 #32

Boring? ...THIS place? Warren DeMontague May 2014 #46

I was kind of hoping that those of you who couldn't wait to rush over there to bash HoF and seaglass May 2014 #50

That's a somewhat round about way Capt. Obvious May 2014 #52

It is? n/t seaglass May 2014 #53

I was being polite Capt. Obvious May 2014 #54

I don't feel the need. n/t seaglass May 2014 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #61

I've only been noticed these arguments on DU since DU3 and I've been a DUer since 2001. From what seaglass May 2014 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #64

Not agree with me about what? seaglass May 2014 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #66

Nah I was here when you dropped in. I wasn't fantasizing, I was hoping. Pretty bad when you see seaglass May 2014 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #73

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Yup ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #36

I do think a fanny PACK is a fashion crime and as such, well-nigh alertable. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #62

Jim Jefferies, and Australian Comic, is more than happy to explain it to us. bvar22 May 2014 #22

I think I understand where you're coming from. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #29

What would be your reaction if a Brit were to say they were going to "knock you up"? Fumesucker May 2014 #30

Or Separation May 2014 #37

One of my international students, who had studied English tblue37 May 2014 #49

It's the Word Police, International Squad. Nye Bevan May 2014 #38

Oh Man, the romance language speakers better be on the lookout Beearewhyain May 2014 #45

MRA bullshit... Ohio Joe May 2014 #39

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #42

awww... do you not like being called on this bullshit. .. Ohio Joe May 2014 #47

I was attacked for saying how the word's used here*. Are you accusing me of promoting MRA bullshit? Violet_Crumble May 2014 #85

An MRA would argue that they should be able to say the word. joshcryer May 2014 #95

How did I miss such an entertaining thread. Sissyk May 2014 #44

Let's see how far I'd get if I... Sivafae May 2014 #51

I believe "shag" is much more offensive in England that it is here in America. Maedhros May 2014 #69

You won't get through to them. Feral Child May 2014 #57

This. n/t ms liberty May 2014 #80

Apparently only Americans get to decide mokawanis May 2014 #58

I was describing the indignation over this to my (British) wife... Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #59

just words they say DustyJoe May 2014 #60

We've got a very nice young lady from China who works in my office. The_Commonist May 2014 #68

Quick story.... Springslips May 2014 #89

Bejeezus and Beallah - I thought you were talking about merkins! erronis May 2014 #67

In my heaven05 May 2014 #75

Why must you try to control this conversation. boston bean May 2014 #79

So embarrassing. DesertDiamond May 2014 #87

Yes Americans can be arrogant... Jasana May 2014 #88

Now that I've discovered this is all about accommodating a RW politician BainsBane May 2014 #90

It's not about that at all... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #92

And that required a separate OP? BainsBane May 2014 #93

I don't see how this OP insulted you if you weren't even aware of the original thread... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #96

I should have realized BainsBane May 2014 #97

It's another variant of "American exceptionalism." joshcryer May 2014 #94