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BainsBane

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93. And that required a separate OP?

Fri May 16, 2014, 10:53 PM

May 2014

insulting those of us who had no knowledge of that thread, as the Ugly American because we are hurt by the use of that word?

The only reason this word in particular is being singled out for special protection is precisely because many women here view it as a hateful. These very same members express outrage if anyone suggests that America doesn't lead the world in gender equality. The point in all of these threads minimizing sexism and misogyny is the same.

I guess folks got tired of telling black people that their experiences of racism didn't matter and felt it was time to move on to another segment of the population. The same thing happened after the objectification threads were shot down. They moved right on to race.

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Well now I've been educated. But I probably learned something other than the intended lesson. [View all] 11 Bravo May 2014 OP

And anyone that thinks banning words will change the thinking of the people using them hobbit709 May 2014 #1

Perhaps, but that's not my point. Given the American connotation, I don't ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author hobbit709 May 2014 #17

No, it won't change people BainsBane May 2014 #13

Does that include making up definitions to words as I have seen done here in the past. hobbit709 May 2014 #21

Which words? BainsBane May 2014 #24

I didn't say it was that word. You obviously are fixated on just one word instead of many. hobbit709 May 2014 #25

What are you talking about? Squinch May 2014 #27

This OP is about one word BainsBane May 2014 #33

It is a gendered slur in Australia BainsBane May 2014 #2

An Australian says differently on the earlier thread. But no doubt ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #28

I have an inferior take on it BainsBane May 2014 #76

fwiw, I'm an Australian woman... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #78

I'm confused on the circumstances BainsBane May 2014 #82

This is the OP that kicked it off... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #84

I take this OP to be a justificatiion of the word BainsBane May 2014 #86

Shocking,, right? redqueen May 2014 #91

actually fag has a quite different meaning in the UK dsc May 2014 #81

I am more familiar with the British use BainsBane May 2014 #83

Gendered isn't a word!!! Never use it!! TransitJohn May 2014 #34

thank you. that word means the same thing all around the (english speaking) world elehhhhna May 2014 #35

No, it's not... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #77

Agreed. Warpy May 2014 #3

Word police are bullies. upaloopa May 2014 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Blanks May 2014 #43

On Twitter, several were outraged at Ricky Gervais using it. alarimer May 2014 #56

Malcolm Tucker used the c-word all the time nxylas May 2014 #71

Your outrage is noted. Squinch May 2014 #4

That was really ugly. Autumn May 2014 #5

Actually there is no (good) reason for it to have the power it has here Schema Thing May 2014 #6

So no more RAH RAH USA USA posts from you? Rex May 2014 #8

What the fuck are you going on about? 11 Bravo May 2014 #10

Like you don't know. Rex May 2014 #14

I'm curious. Could you link to what you consider to be a ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #19

We're not in Australia. n/t seaglass May 2014 #11

But the speaker of the word that initiated all of this WAS. Is that really ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #15

Why do you think it was posted here? Is that so difficult to understand? n/t seaglass May 2014 #16

That is not the same objection you voiced previously. 11 Bravo May 2014 #26

Seriously, you are going to rely on your faulty memory to paraphrase an argument I never made? seaglass May 2014 #31

Unlike you, I make no pretensions to mind-reading. 11 Bravo May 2014 #40

Can you link to what you are talking about because I just went to My Posts and I don't see any seaglass May 2014 #41

I think you hit on the problem zeemike May 2014 #74

And after all that effort you put in trying to be a good little DUer Fumesucker May 2014 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #18

Crikey mate, she's a beauty! Fumesucker May 2014 #20

Americans are bad people, unless of course the opposite is needed for the narrative. Rex May 2014 #23

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Got bored so soon? n/t seaglass May 2014 #32

Boring? ...THIS place? Warren DeMontague May 2014 #46

I was kind of hoping that those of you who couldn't wait to rush over there to bash HoF and seaglass May 2014 #50

That's a somewhat round about way Capt. Obvious May 2014 #52

It is? n/t seaglass May 2014 #53

I was being polite Capt. Obvious May 2014 #54

I don't feel the need. n/t seaglass May 2014 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #61

I've only been noticed these arguments on DU since DU3 and I've been a DUer since 2001. From what seaglass May 2014 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #64

Not agree with me about what? seaglass May 2014 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #66

Nah I was here when you dropped in. I wasn't fantasizing, I was hoping. Pretty bad when you see seaglass May 2014 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #73

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Yup ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #36

I do think a fanny PACK is a fashion crime and as such, well-nigh alertable. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #62

Jim Jefferies, and Australian Comic, is more than happy to explain it to us. bvar22 May 2014 #22

I think I understand where you're coming from. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #29

What would be your reaction if a Brit were to say they were going to "knock you up"? Fumesucker May 2014 #30

Or Separation May 2014 #37

One of my international students, who had studied English tblue37 May 2014 #49

It's the Word Police, International Squad. Nye Bevan May 2014 #38

Oh Man, the romance language speakers better be on the lookout Beearewhyain May 2014 #45

MRA bullshit... Ohio Joe May 2014 #39

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awww... do you not like being called on this bullshit. .. Ohio Joe May 2014 #47

I was attacked for saying how the word's used here*. Are you accusing me of promoting MRA bullshit? Violet_Crumble May 2014 #85

An MRA would argue that they should be able to say the word. joshcryer May 2014 #95

How did I miss such an entertaining thread. Sissyk May 2014 #44

Let's see how far I'd get if I... Sivafae May 2014 #51

I believe "shag" is much more offensive in England that it is here in America. Maedhros May 2014 #69

You won't get through to them. Feral Child May 2014 #57

This. n/t ms liberty May 2014 #80

Apparently only Americans get to decide mokawanis May 2014 #58

I was describing the indignation over this to my (British) wife... Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #59

just words they say DustyJoe May 2014 #60

We've got a very nice young lady from China who works in my office. The_Commonist May 2014 #68

Quick story.... Springslips May 2014 #89

Bejeezus and Beallah - I thought you were talking about merkins! erronis May 2014 #67

In my heaven05 May 2014 #75

Why must you try to control this conversation. boston bean May 2014 #79

So embarrassing. DesertDiamond May 2014 #87

Yes Americans can be arrogant... Jasana May 2014 #88

Now that I've discovered this is all about accommodating a RW politician BainsBane May 2014 #90

It's not about that at all... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #92

And that required a separate OP? BainsBane May 2014 #93

I don't see how this OP insulted you if you weren't even aware of the original thread... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #96

I should have realized BainsBane May 2014 #97

It's another variant of "American exceptionalism." joshcryer May 2014 #94