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smallcat88

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19. I think it's only a matter of time

Reply to woo me with science (Original post)

Sat May 17, 2014, 02:37 PM

May 2014

It's the same old problem: most people aren't really paying attention. They might watch local news or don't watch the news at all. They're secure and complacent in a democracy they believe is secure and don't have a clue how much people like the Kochs are working overtime to undermine it. It won't be until more and more people start to personally feel the effects in their own lives that a real pushback will begin. Just hope it's not too late! Apathy is one of the greatest enemies to real democracy. The Koch brothers and their ilk know that.

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Wouldn't it be nice to have a REAL American Spring, [View all] woo me with science May 2014 OP

Well, the "message-massagers" appear to even have groups on sites like this ridiculing each other villager May 2014 #1

You mean instead of the Astroturf extravaganza we're now witnessing? Hugin May 2014 #2

it's not realistic that there would be just one encompassing protest bigtree May 2014 #3

There are movements building - not just in the US LongTomH May 2014 #4

What's stopping you?...nt SidDithers May 2014 #5

Maybe she's not a banker, or inheritor of great wealth, MannyGoldstein May 2014 #38

Excuses, excuses...nt SidDithers May 2014 #40

My thoughts exactly. llmart May 2014 #39

It may happen... Helen Borg May 2014 #6

I gotcher American Spring right here radiclib May 2014 #7

We don't need a "spring". We already have democratic representation. We need... Taitertots May 2014 #8

No, Koch has representation. We have only an illusion of it. merrily May 2014 #12

Hear, hear! smallcat88 May 2014 #17

Most of the springs I've seen seem to end really badly for the people involved. JVS May 2014 #9

Maybe, the idea is to find a different way to go about it. merrily May 2014 #13

When, not if it happens, I hope that the only focus is on Complete Campaign Finance Reform (CCFR) Dustlawyer May 2014 #10

You mean call a bribe a bribe instead of "speech"? Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #11

Doesn't matter what we call it, as long as our so-called representatives get to define merrily May 2014 #14

Ponder this: Americans are fixated on only ONE branch of government. The executive.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #18

Agree, though my comment went to the legislative. merrily May 2014 #20

The will of the populace is irrelevant to Republicans.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #28

Yeah, it's only the Republicans that don't heed the voice of the people. merrily May 2014 #29

At least Democrats care about their image. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #33

And Republicans don't? I'd rather they cared about us. merrily May 2014 #46

Republicans have only a fringe.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #47

Sorry, I am not following. merrily May 2014 #48

That's why they HAVE to prevent voting. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #49

Yes. Especially in populous locations. merrily May 2014 #50

Thanks, woomewithscience. It would be great. merrily May 2014 #15

it was supposed to be occupy wall street. yodermon May 2014 #16

Actually, it was supposed to be another Occupy Washington, D.C. merrily May 2014 #22

I think it's only a matter of time smallcat88 May 2014 #19

Democracy is citizens voting on things like war, the national budget, etc. as in Ancient Athens. merrily May 2014 #23

I was speaking broadly, of course smallcat88 May 2014 #25

An awful lot has been invested in convincing us that we live in a democracy that we control. merrily May 2014 #26

I don't believe that people aren't paying attention... Blanks May 2014 #31

I thought I recognized some familiar faces Whisp May 2014 #21

you want to do it Egypt style? snooper2 May 2014 #24

All we know of "Egypt style" is what the media tells us. merrily May 2014 #27

VICE snooper2 May 2014 #34

Wouldn't it be nice to start with some concrete definite goals rather than windy abstractions? struggle4progress May 2014 #30

It's difficult to get people to agree on a concrete definite goal... Blanks May 2014 #32

Abortion rights are close to gone for most practical purposes in a lot of states Fumesucker May 2014 #36

The opposition approached it in a different way... Blanks May 2014 #44

Instead of choosing the most important from our long list of reforms... randome May 2014 #41

I agree, and I like infrastructure repair... Blanks May 2014 #42

It won't happen until the bridge that collapses Ilsa May 2014 #45

That would be nice but it is not gonna happen. Most are not willing to do what it would take so Exposethefrauds May 2014 #35

du rec. xchrom May 2014 #37

With less pollen? alfredo May 2014 #43