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44. The opposition approached it in a different way...

Sun May 18, 2014, 09:54 AM

May 2014

They didn't overturn Roe v Wade. Which was the battle cry.

Just as we aren't going to overturn Citizens United. If we want campaign finance reform, we have to pass a law that the Supreme Court won't overturn.

I get annoyed when I get a lot of fund raising emails saying that we need to overturn 'Citizens United'. It's a waste of time and effort. Just another distraction, an example of the democrats trying to use an issue that people are emotional about to raise funds.

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You mean instead of the Astroturf extravaganza we're now witnessing? Hugin May 2014 #2

it's not realistic that there would be just one encompassing protest bigtree May 2014 #3

There are movements building - not just in the US LongTomH May 2014 #4

What's stopping you?...nt SidDithers May 2014 #5

Maybe she's not a banker, or inheritor of great wealth, MannyGoldstein May 2014 #38

Excuses, excuses...nt SidDithers May 2014 #40

My thoughts exactly. llmart May 2014 #39

It may happen... Helen Borg May 2014 #6

I gotcher American Spring right here radiclib May 2014 #7

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No, Koch has representation. We have only an illusion of it. merrily May 2014 #12

Hear, hear! smallcat88 May 2014 #17

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Maybe, the idea is to find a different way to go about it. merrily May 2014 #13

When, not if it happens, I hope that the only focus is on Complete Campaign Finance Reform (CCFR) Dustlawyer May 2014 #10

You mean call a bribe a bribe instead of "speech"? Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #11

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Agree, though my comment went to the legislative. merrily May 2014 #20

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Yeah, it's only the Republicans that don't heed the voice of the people. merrily May 2014 #29

At least Democrats care about their image. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #33

And Republicans don't? I'd rather they cared about us. merrily May 2014 #46

Republicans have only a fringe.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #47

Sorry, I am not following. merrily May 2014 #48

That's why they HAVE to prevent voting. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #49

Yes. Especially in populous locations. merrily May 2014 #50

Thanks, woomewithscience. It would be great. merrily May 2014 #15

it was supposed to be occupy wall street. yodermon May 2014 #16

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I think it's only a matter of time smallcat88 May 2014 #19

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I was speaking broadly, of course smallcat88 May 2014 #25

An awful lot has been invested in convincing us that we live in a democracy that we control. merrily May 2014 #26

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I thought I recognized some familiar faces Whisp May 2014 #21

you want to do it Egypt style? snooper2 May 2014 #24

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VICE snooper2 May 2014 #34

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du rec. xchrom May 2014 #37

With less pollen? alfredo May 2014 #43