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joeglow3

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128. You work in a shitty field

Reply to bettyellen (Reply #112)

Sun May 18, 2014, 11:01 AM

May 2014

I work in accounting and, at worst, women are paid equal in every international company I have worked for (four now).

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Which Part of a Woman is 23% less than a Man? [View all] sheshe2 May 2014 OP

This is completely and totally false taught_me_patience May 2014 #1

You have a link? Here's mine~ sheshe2 May 2014 #2

Again, they are using an "average" fulll time male vs. full time female taught_me_patience May 2014 #5

It is true BainsBane May 2014 #9

Men CHOSE RobinA May 2014 #57

I'd like to see people doing unskilled work get a little parity Major Nikon May 2014 #58

You're changing the subject instead of addressing the issue. And everyone knows why. nt redqueen May 2014 #61

So why didn't you address this to the person in which I was replying? Major Nikon May 2014 #64

Is it because, as you've repeatedly posted, sometimes no means yes? redqueen May 2014 #65

And I've said repeatedly those were the claims of two academic feminists Major Nikon May 2014 #67

You posted that 'study' to defend the claims of Warren Farrell, that sometimes date rapists were redqueen May 2014 #70

Sounds like you're the one confused Major Nikon May 2014 #73

LOL, you're posting shit from some other site that who knows who posted it... and how long ago? redqueen May 2014 #74

"who knows who posted it" Major Nikon May 2014 #77

While I Don't Disagree RobinA May 2014 #68

Do you think it's harder to find someone to make beds Major Nikon May 2014 #69

I Was Responding to Your Examples RobinA May 2014 #71

Your point completely ignores the law of supply and demand Major Nikon May 2014 #76

"When half of the work pool is simply not going after certain jobs..." bettyellen May 2014 #78

They aren't for the same reason women aren't applying for jobs roofing houses Major Nikon May 2014 #79

And not because they KNOW they can make double the pay unskilled? LOL, sure thing. bettyellen May 2014 #81

So women don't know this too? Major Nikon May 2014 #83

If it paid the same as roofing, they would. hughee99 May 2014 #85

Don't Know Why RobinA May 2014 #86

Managers aren't always the smartest guys in the room Major Nikon May 2014 #90

I need more facts joeglow3 May 2014 #118

How many hotel workers fall off a roof and die? joeglow3 May 2014 #116

A friend of mine was a welder when she was younger FrodosPet May 2014 #141

Do you really want someone to explain why skilled workers are paid higher wages? Taitertots May 2014 #107

Sure Major Nikon May 2014 #108

McDonald's CEO isn't a skilled worker. I thought you ment engineers, Welders, electricians.... Taitertots May 2014 #110

So why don't they pick up CEOs at the unemployment office? Major Nikon May 2014 #113

I'll take your post as an indication that you either understand why skilled employees get higher... Taitertots May 2014 #114

Both actually Major Nikon May 2014 #115

You asked it. I asked if you wanted it explained to you. You replied that you did. Taitertots May 2014 #117

"pay so much more" is the key phrase here Major Nikon May 2014 #127

Fascinating - the 'Mens Ten' are all (almost) F'ing w/ the planet+ ppl... alittlelark May 2014 #125

Here is another taught_me_patience May 2014 #6

6.6 cents on the dollar isn't really "almost equal" hfojvt May 2014 #20

I don't think anyone questions the pay equality for civil service workers, it exists mainly where okaawhatever May 2014 #25

6.6 on the dollar is a real issue taught_me_patience May 2014 #39

Exactly Why RobinA May 2014 #87

Even set pay scales don't guarantee equal pay Major Nikon May 2014 #94

Another by the Christina Hoff Sommers? DanTex May 2014 #60

She's very popular with certain posters here. nt redqueen May 2014 #62

Are you arguing she lied about the results of the study? joeglow3 May 2014 #119

Obama pays his female staff 88 cents on the dollar compared to his male staff Major Nikon May 2014 #59

"Full-time" Men work 5 more hours per week. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #129

Not to mention all the work women do for "free" RainDog May 2014 #3

All parts together, by weight Silent3 May 2014 #4

Utterly bogus, and has been comprehensively debunked. Nye Bevan May 2014 #7

So the President and VP BainsBane May 2014 #11

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #14

not entirely hfojvt May 2014 #16

No, they say it exactly like the OP does BainsBane May 2014 #21

Hey, BainsBane. sheshe2 May 2014 #50

Please see my OP regarding evidence StrongBad May 2014 #95

If the shoe fits joeglow3 May 2014 #120

Justifies BainsBane May 2014 #122

So, how do we know a gap even exists joeglow3 May 2014 #123

But if they use that figure all the time then Nye's question is valid, no? HornBuckler May 2014 #22

If you have a link where the President or VP uses the phrase "for the exact same work", Nye Bevan May 2014 #30

How would anyone know, since Republicans blocked the Fair Pay Act Bandit May 2014 #43

bogus huh? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #12

Yes, totally false. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #15

statistics mean nothing now? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #36

"median annual earnings" hfojvt May 2014 #18

OH yes.....those statistics STILL stand for the 'exact same work" VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #38

being in the "same industry" does not mean doing the same job hfojvt May 2014 #41

and denial is not a river in Egypt... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #42

you should know hfojvt May 2014 #55

When was the last time you had a minimum wage job? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #106

I take it you are being deliberately obtuse. Vattel May 2014 #136

I take it you don't know me very well... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #137

Awesome reply! Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #111

that is bunk and you know it.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #138

never underestimate my own ignorance hfojvt May 2014 #142

No it wasn't based on one thing.....you need to read the thread before you post.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #143

and somehow you think YOU are smarter than ALL the experts out there on this subject... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #144

What "experts"? hfojvt May 2014 #145

Not politician or journalist experts.....Socio Scientists etc... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #147

Simple question. How many hours does the average "full time" woman work? lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #132

this is supposed to mean something..... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #148

It's not "for the same work". lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #130

Says you? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #149

here I am, reading the thread hfojvt May 2014 #146

and you know this how? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #150

that example proves me wrong? How? hfojvt May 2014 #153

YES.....did you read? that is EXACTLY what it is saying.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #154

I read something, I believe it was last year, that said women had less unemployment than men and okaawhatever May 2014 #28

There were some articles that women had gains when unemployment dropped, but the gains were bettyellen May 2014 #44

Well, their feet are usually smaller... MADem May 2014 #8

That's where the spike heels come in handy. n/t moriah May 2014 #23

Perhaps there's a market for those Knife Shoes that Frau whatsername wore in the Austin Powers MADem May 2014 #48

I will happily rec this sheshe. William769 May 2014 #10

Kick and recc'd VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #13

The sad thing about this lie is that it's an uneccessary lie. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #17

it is something you will never experience, Donald noiretextatique May 2014 #19

The Simple Truth about the Gender Pay Gap (2014) etherealtruth May 2014 #27

Repeatedly saying sheshe's OP is a lie chervilant May 2014 #29

The graphic in the OP is a lie taught_me_patience May 2014 #40

It is not a lie. Major Hogwash May 2014 #100

In my case, I was making $0.86 per dollar.... moriah May 2014 #24

That is why Lily Ledbetter is so important. it makes it easier for women to sue for wage okaawhatever May 2014 #26

I understand your displeasure yeoman6987 May 2014 #31

I was the only woman on the project, remotely leading a team of 10 technicians.... moriah May 2014 #32

I am glad that you got more yeoman6987 May 2014 #33

Needs the sarcasm tag. NCTraveler May 2014 #45

Beer gut? Ego? "Mom" tattoos? WinkyDink May 2014 #34

Hair on ears. Especially in old age. Vinca May 2014 #35

Nothing, ma'am, you're the same as we are. 100%, no less. =) AverageJoe90 May 2014 #37

body hair, women have 23% less body hair then men snooper2 May 2014 #46

Speak for yourself! BainsBane May 2014 #47

Good post, sheshe2 KitSileya May 2014 #49

Whoa ismnotwasm May 2014 #51

Seriously. sheshe2 May 2014 #52

Not a single person in this thread is denying a wage gap taught_me_patience May 2014 #54

While true, why is so much of the lower wage work pushed on women and the higher MillennialDem May 2014 #56

When women are better educated, it's hard to imagine how anything is being pushed on them Major Nikon May 2014 #91

As a woman who majored in math (M.S.) I faced a decent amount of sexism. I've heard it's worse in MillennialDem May 2014 #92

The question is whether the sexism is cause or effect Major Nikon May 2014 #93

Sweden has policies that are family friendly and encourage moms to do that, here the burden is on bettyellen May 2014 #98

Social progress always lags way behind modern political and economic realities davidn3600 May 2014 #99

People are "stuck" in gender roles less and less. Perhaps in more conservative areas it will take bettyellen May 2014 #103

I don't really see how anything you posted is relevant to what I posted Major Nikon May 2014 #101

Perhaps because bearing a kid was never an option for you it's not relevant. Random my ass. bettyellen May 2014 #102

Get back to me when you come up with something better than emotional appeals Major Nikon May 2014 #105

It's an observation, LOL- but not shocked you misread that also. When you are incapable of listening bettyellen May 2014 #109

as a man who majored in math hfojvt May 2014 #97

Many professions are bending over backwards to attract and retain women joeglow3 May 2014 #121

Kewl story bro! Rex May 2014 #89

Prove it. Exactly which post are you referring to. n/t taught_me_patience May 2014 #96

Cool thoughtless meme response. nt. delta17 May 2014 #159

It's nothing new here. nt redqueen May 2014 #63

There are people here denying the baseless cause for the effect Major Nikon May 2014 #66

*grumbles* Brains, body frame, hands, feet, bone mass... 951-Riverside May 2014 #53

Everybody interested in this topic must watch this video on the subject: StrongBad May 2014 #72

Chromosomes Jenoch May 2014 #75

Nope. That second X is way bigger ... dawg May 2014 #80

It was satire. Both genders have 23 chromosoms. Jenoch May 2014 #82

I know. dawg May 2014 #84

K&R for pissing off all the right people! Rex May 2014 #88

There is a pay gap shawn703 May 2014 #104

Yes, the best way for women to earn more is to negotiate hard, and turn it around... bettyellen May 2014 #112

You work in a shitty field joeglow3 May 2014 #128

It has got both good and bad parts to it, and was worse 25 years ago- the pay discrimination was bettyellen May 2014 #131

I would guess small companies are shitty. joeglow3 May 2014 #133

The advantages are you can learn so much, I was pretty much running my dept in 18 months, bettyellen May 2014 #134

Do you really want an honest answer? MohRokTah May 2014 #124

It's some of the responses to threads like this one that Lunacee_2013 May 2014 #126

who cares what the truth is? hfojvt May 2014 #151

Totally, it's not like those statistics have any real effect on people's lives or anything. Nt. Lunacee_2013 May 2014 #157

Their arm Spirochete May 2014 #135

Lots of reactionary bullshit in this thread YoungDemCA May 2014 #139

I'm doing my part to help FrodosPet May 2014 #140

Misognist psychiatriatrists invented penis envy. merrily May 2014 #152

I'm more surprised at the snotty replies, than i am about who is making them Scootaloo May 2014 #155

Eyebrows Shankapotomus May 2014 #156

I would have to say "not being in charge" and in power to Laura PourMeADrink May 2014 #158