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jeff47

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125. Why?

Sun May 18, 2014, 09:02 PM

May 2014

The NRA and all the other pro-gun people in this country need to quit dancing around semantics and help come up with a solution.

Why? They like the status quo.

The NRA loves it, since their real supporters (gun manufacturers) make a fortune off the status quo.

"Pro-gun people" who oppose every attempt at regulation do so out of fear their guns will be regulated away. That's why they're busy whining about cosmetic features instead of helping to create laws that work better.

Sure, they're gonna wander off with distractions like mental health care, but won't stop the vast majority of shootings. Those efforts are designed to cut down on the big, splashy shootings that results in gun control laws.

So don't hold your breath about help from the NRA and "other pro-gun people". They prefer all the death.

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du rec. xchrom May 2014 #1

Perhaps something good will come of this group hack89 May 2014 #2

He should definitely stay in the background mwrguy May 2014 #7

not real grassroots when the founder was a PR executive Duckhunter935 May 2014 #8

If you can't attack the message then attack the messenger. groundloop May 2014 #10

truth hurts sometimes Duckhunter935 May 2014 #14

How profound. ChazInAz May 2014 #114

how stupid it is for the group Duckhunter935 May 2014 #117

It doesn't make much difference does it? So why would it upset you so much? A Simple Game May 2014 #118

It's a tactic Duckhunter uses often. canuckledragger May 2014 #49

+1. laundry_queen May 2014 #76

can you answer my question posed in 108? Duckhunter935 May 2014 #119

Well, Duckhunter935 what is it that upsets you? intaglio May 2014 #51

Wow are we not nice Duckhunter935 May 2014 #75

Intel's last line: A most peculiar fixation with odors Down There. Eleanors38 May 2014 #77

Oh, you are upset that she has a life outside the home intaglio May 2014 #78

Were did I say your last line was a sexual reference? Duckhunter935 May 2014 #88

By it's proximity to the reference to penis intaglio May 2014 #110

I dont hunt Duckhunter935 May 2014 #116

But I'm sure it helps to have guidance doing those searches intaglio May 2014 #120

Mossberg? Duckhunter935 May 2014 #121

I would say - all the better! calimary May 2014 #80

background checks are not a problem to me Duckhunter935 May 2014 #3

There isn't a gun thread canuckledragger May 2014 #4

Can't be a gun thread Duckhunter935 May 2014 #6

Just pointing out your constant defense canuckledragger May 2014 #48

"Gun thread" (your term) in GD? Who'd thunk? Eleanors38 May 2014 #65

not smearing anybody Duckhunter935 May 2014 #68

And when pointing out your obvious smear tactics canuckledragger May 2014 #79

I have and support sensible regulations Duckhunter935 May 2014 #84

You sure do a lot of complaining for a "nice and comfortable" person. DanTex May 2014 #91

so anyone you do not agree with is complaining? Duckhunter935 May 2014 #92

Not at all. But you are... DanTex May 2014 #93

I guess if you say so Duckhunter935 May 2014 #94

There is always room for disagreement. canuckledragger May 2014 #95

fine if thats how you see it Duckhunter935 May 2014 #104

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #105

so now you are calling me a "shill" Duckhunter935 May 2014 #108

I wish I could rec your post. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #102

Still waiting for responsible gun owners ... GeorgeGist May 2014 #113

Even more apropos! ChazInAz May 2014 #115

I don't agree with banning online sales LittleBlue May 2014 #5

Bloomberg Pays for Action. aikoaiko May 2014 #9

It's always funny when the NRAers complain about Bloomberg's involvement with gun control... DanTex May 2014 #11

Considering most of us have views the NRA opposes hack89 May 2014 #12

Hmm. That's an odd thing to say, considering that you are an NRA member... DanTex May 2014 #13

I vote for gun control Dems. hack89 May 2014 #15

Of course! You're a huge gun control advocate! DanTex May 2014 #17

Like I said, when you want to actually accomplish something let me know hack89 May 2014 #26

Like I said, I find it hilarious when pro-gunners insist they are really just trying DanTex May 2014 #27

Entertainment is what DU is all about hack89 May 2014 #29

I will say all of those are idiots and I do not support them as they are extreme Duckhunter935 May 2014 #16

Yes, the leaders of the gun rights movement are all right-wing nutjobs. DanTex May 2014 #19

Who said I hated Bloomberg? Duckhunter935 May 2014 #21

I did. It's obvious from your posts that you have a single-minded obsession with the man. DanTex May 2014 #22

And you would be wrong again Duckhunter935 May 2014 #24

Bloomberg can do whatever he wants, I do not care Duckhunter935 May 2014 #18

Umm, evidently, yes, you do care. DanTex May 2014 #20

how do the gun manufacturers profit from gun violence? Duckhunter935 May 2014 #23

Umm, the same way that arms manufacturers profit from wars... DanTex May 2014 #25

so no proof Duckhunter935 May 2014 #31

Proof that gun manufactures make money by selling guns? DanTex May 2014 #37

you forgot the gun violence part Duckhunter935 May 2014 #39

Umm, it's pretty hard to forget about gun violence when living in the US... DanTex May 2014 #40

so how many of the 300 million are not Duckhunter935 May 2014 #45

But there is no direct link is there? hack89 May 2014 #28

Of course there's a direct link. DanTex May 2014 #30

So gun violence is not significantly less than it was 20 years ago? hack89 May 2014 #32

Lower than 50 years ago, no. DanTex May 2014 #34

Perhaps we should go back to the gun control laws of the 1960s? hack89 May 2014 #36

Hmm, "down" is an odd choice of words to describe by far the highest rates of gun violence DanTex May 2014 #38

Yes, however we should aim for a reality based solution hack89 May 2014 #42

of couse not Duckhunter935 May 2014 #46

Mental health reform and ending the drug war are going to be tough, politically. DanTex May 2014 #53

I agree with the ACLU about registration hack89 May 2014 #61

Hmm, I didn't realize the ACLU wanted to dismantle the NFA registry. DanTex May 2014 #63

They opposed gun registration on privacy grounds hack89 May 2014 #72

I must have missed the part where they wanted to dismantle the NFA registry. DanTex May 2014 #74

They don't oppose existing the NFA registry hack89 May 2014 #82

Very bizarre thinking. I didn't realize the ACLU had veered way over to the right on certain issues. DanTex May 2014 #85

I know - personal privacy is such a RW value hack89 May 2014 #86

Privacy is important, but I don't know a single progressive who buys into that prepostersous DanTex May 2014 #87

It is none of the government's business what I own or do in the privacy of my home hack89 May 2014 #89

I guess that's a "no", you can't think of any progressives who buy into it. DanTex May 2014 #90

I know - the ACLU is a bunch of RWrs hack89 May 2014 #96

So that's the second "no" in a row. Still can't name a single progressive that buys into DanTex May 2014 #97

Are you for real? hack89 May 2014 #99

Are you? I guess ignoring my posts is the only strategy you've got, giving that you DanTex May 2014 #100

I know the ACLU is antigun hack89 May 2014 #101

Your position on gun registration is clearly right-wing. DanTex May 2014 #103

But their position on the 2A is a progressive one, correct? hack89 May 2014 #107

What are you talking about? DanTex May 2014 #109

I have never thought they agreed with me on the 2A hack89 May 2014 #111

OK. Have fun. DanTex May 2014 #112

so you are for gun confiscation? Duckhunter935 May 2014 #43

Huh? Confiscation? DanTex May 2014 #55

and the millions all ready out in civilian hands? Duckhunter935 May 2014 #64

They should be registered under NFA. DanTex May 2014 #67

so the DOJ is wrong? Duckhunter935 May 2014 #33

Gun assaults have increased over the last decade. DanTex May 2014 #35

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Mental health care reform should be the first step hack89 May 2014 #44

and many gun owners here have put up many good ideas Duckhunter935 May 2014 #47

Why? jeff47 May 2014 #125

You support free speech, Rush Limbaugh supports free speech, therefore... NutmegYankee May 2014 #50

Right, that's my point, sort of. DanTex May 2014 #52

Not really. NutmegYankee May 2014 #54

Yes, really. DanTex May 2014 #56

It comes down to advocating or promoting what a person says. NutmegYankee May 2014 #57

...and people who are in bed with Ted Nugent should be especially reluctant to play DanTex May 2014 #59

The choice of "in bed" betrays your viewpoint. NutmegYankee May 2014 #62

Yes, the "guilt by Bloomberg association" smear-fest does seem to show up every time. DanTex May 2014 #66

Both sides of the gun debate do it on DU. NutmegYankee May 2014 #69

Ah, the old "both sides do it" card. DanTex May 2014 #71

I could have spent my lunch talking to a brick wall... NutmegYankee May 2014 #73

I know Bloomberg is a your great right hope for gun restrictions. aikoaiko May 2014 #58

Well, he's certainly making an effort, which is a good thing. DanTex May 2014 #60

What's a pro-gunner Duckhunter935 May 2014 #70

Umm, yeah, "pro-gunner", it's pretty complicated. DanTex May 2014 #81

I am glad she did Duckhunter935 May 2014 #122

Umm... looks like your NRA handler got this one wrong. DanTex May 2014 #123

If you cared to go to the link provided Duckhunter935 May 2014 #124

Sorry, buddy, but she is a stay at home mom. DanTex May 2014 #126

and we will disagree Duckhunter935 May 2014 #127

Wrong again... DanTex May 2014 #128

R#40 & K n/t UTUSN May 2014 #83

K&R billh58 May 2014 #98

I don't know...some of us have been laughing at the Brady Campaign's and VPC's efforts to ban guns.. aikoaiko May 2014 #106

Bloomberg front group exploiting tragedy, selling propaganda. n/t Skip Intro May 2014 #129

Never blkmusclmachine May 2014 #130