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Honeycombe8

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22. Except some of his "facts" aren't really facts.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:39 PM
Mar 2012

It sounds, in the 911 call, tht GZ isn't sure of the race of the guy he called about. He didn't call to report a black person. When the cop asks if the guy is black or hispanic, GZ says haltingly that the guy is black, and then describes the clothing, but he doesn't sound so sure. He's mainly concerned with the hoodie and the way the guy is walking/acting, which GZ thinks is like he's on drugs.

It's only when Trayvon approaches GZ and confronts him, that GZ tells the 911 cop that the guy is approaching him with something in his hand, and he matter of factly describes him as a "black male," and then describes his clothing including shoes more specifically.

It is also not a definite given that if GZ were black, that he would have been arrested.

Statements like these are meant to inflame, and are passionate, but are not factual and do not necessarily reflect reality. No one knows for sure, yet, exactly all that went on.

At first, people were passionately angry that GZ had attacked Trayvon Martin, and we now know that it is at least probable, if not likely, that Trayvon confronted GZ in a hostile way. And GZ, noticing that Trayvon had something in his hand, may have thought Trayvon was armed. Maybe. Maybe not.

I'm waiting for the ALL the facts.

Celebrities are using this incident to get on TV shows and get their names in the news. Be wary of people who talk like they know the facts, when the facts are not known yet. The FBI and the DOJ are investigating. I think they are experienced enough to conduct a thorough investigation. And be ESPECIALLY wary of "witnesses" who are popping up on TV shows, saying they saw this and heard that. If they did, and if what they care about is justice, they'll be talking to the investigators and no one else.

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I have spent some time talking with people from countries south of the US CBGLuthier Mar 2012 #1
One place I worked at had anti-gay graffitti - hedgehog Mar 2012 #2
I live in Mississippi Aerows Mar 2012 #37
Sadly abelenkpe Mar 2012 #3
And if one looks closer nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #4
That is very true. My family knew another family of Hispanics ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2012 #16
See my post earlier about the gas station Aerows Mar 2012 #38
It's easy for some to dismiss racism so as to ignore it's effects and lazily blame the victim uponit7771 Mar 2012 #5
The one thing cyglet Mar 2012 #6
Or, NOLALady Mar 2012 #10
Which is your culture? robinlynne Mar 2012 #12
American. NOLALady Mar 2012 #13
I'm not really willing to completely say that cyglet Mar 2012 #17
There are two other NOLALady Mar 2012 #18
I get that cyglet Mar 2012 #19
Most people didn't see it on TV NOLALady Mar 2012 #20
Wow. This is without a doubt one of the most perfectly written posts I've ever seen here Number23 Mar 2012 #25
Are you suggesting that racial profiling didn't exist or got worse Number23 Mar 2012 #24
No. cyglet Mar 2012 #26
"I'm suggesting it may aggravate things." Number23 Mar 2012 #27
I've always thought cyglet Mar 2012 #29
I love hip hop music and have since I was a kid Number23 Mar 2012 #30
There's a lot of people that think only white people can be racists Downtown Hound Mar 2012 #7
The Truth is often uncomfortable. GopperStopper2680 Mar 2012 #8
I ask myself this a lot. BlueIris Mar 2012 #9
I have a DIL NOLALady Mar 2012 #11
Jesus. BlueIris Mar 2012 #21
My sister adopted two children from China Aerows Mar 2012 #39
I have been noticing this .. butterfly77 Mar 2012 #14
Zimm's friend and family's . sendero Mar 2012 #32
I knew a Puerto Rican of obvious predominately African descendent who hated Blacks. ieoeja Mar 2012 #15
Except some of his "facts" aren't really facts. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #22
Sure, you are waiting for "ALL the facts". You have a lot of assumptions in what you write. And you uppityperson Mar 2012 #28
Because we have two contemporaneous phone records of the confrontation.... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #35
Z did chase down and shoot T after confronting him. And Z is "white". uppityperson Mar 2012 #41
Sure, he only called him a "fucking c**n" on the 911 call. Son of Gob Mar 2012 #31
And we all know.. sendero Mar 2012 #33
Yes, there is a difference of opinion of what he says on the tape. It's not clear. BUT... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #36
K&R Number23 Mar 2012 #23
Well we know that Peru elects a local Indian for President nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #34
Trayvon Martin was stalked, attacked... Iggo Mar 2012 #40
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