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Vehl

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43. The Liberalism Congress stands for is anything but that.
Mon May 19, 2014, 12:25 AM
May 2014

As a person of south Asian origin and one who belongs to the younger generation, The "liberalism" the congress claims to espouse looks pretty wonky to me.

For example, the bill that would have allowed women a minimum 33% seats as MP's on the parliament has been stalled thanks to some Congress/Congress-affiliated bigwigs. Their reason? allocating such seats to women would mean minorities would have less seats ( ). Modi recently proposed a 50% reservation for women, and hopefully this would come into effect, now that the Congress party is truly trounced.

This brings us to what a lot of Indians find wrong with the way congress goes about enacting their "liberal policies". They pander to minorities. We all speak of the need to improve the status of women in India..but what does the Congress party do? they go ahead and allow Muslim men to marry four women.

"Under India's Muslim Personal Law, Islamic Shariah permits men to have up to four wives at a time."


Why does a democracy make such an exception to a minority? especially a regressive one such as this? Congress party wants this because they can be assured of the Muslim vote-bank in the elections. IMHO, having such a law is a disgrace to any democratic country. When did liberalism allow certain segments of a democratic country to have special rights such as this?

The same thing goes for the "reservations" for minorities. For Example, if you are a minority, you are allocated a certain minimum quota for jobs/universities, regardless if you qualify for that job; or earned enough points in an exam for college. Why do we need such a framework in a democratic society where everyone is treated equally? And yes; I do agree that poverty makes a big difference and allowances need to be made; thus why not have the quota for disadvantaged people based on family income, than on their religion/caste?

The BJP on the other hand, envisions an India where there is no Caste. They even proposed the abolition of caste in the birth certificate; a proposal that never went anywhere thanks to Congress opposition. Imagine an India without caste? well we cant have that now..can we? If we do, where else can the Congress party go asking for votes?

What Indians want now is not a party that plays favorites or panders to certain segments of the society while paying lip-service to "liberalism". What they want is a party that allows Indians to decide their own fate. The BJP may or may not be this party, but at least they have a pretty good chance of being that one.

The Congress liberals would never have let a low caste child laborer become PM, however the so called "conservative" BJP did. Imo actions speak better than words. So yes, imo The Congress is not truly liberal.


PS: The BJP won by a landslide even on Muslim Majority states, such as Jammu and Kashmir. This makes one wonder about Muslims not voting for BJP




PPS:
Oh also, the Gandhi dynasty presided over one of the largest ethnic riots in Indian history; the Riots against Sikhs(After Indira Gandhi was assassinated by her Sikh bodyguards). And the Congress party has been heavily implicated in these riots.


""When a great tree falls, the earth is bound to shake."

So Rajiv Gandhi is reported to have responded as violence took hold after his mother's death and accounts began to emerge of Congress party members leading the mobs.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26235314


PPS: Apologies for the delayed reply
Sonia Ghandi has to go. Dawson Leery May 2014 #1
I hope I am dead wrong about the Reagan/Modi comparison. Laelth May 2014 #2
I hope you are wrong about that comparison too. Dawson Leery May 2014 #3
War with Pakistan...on the horizon ,,, nt kelliekat44 May 2014 #22
I doubt that. Laelth May 2014 #24
Thanks for this Laelth! villager May 2014 #4
My pleasure. n/t Laelth May 2014 #5
wow. that was a lot to read, but i learned a lot too. Sheri May 2014 #6
My pleasure. I am glad you found the post informative. n/t Laelth May 2014 #27
This should be in The New York Times. Octafish May 2014 #7
You are very kind. Laelth May 2014 #8
Marvelous, edifying post! Thank you so much! scarletwoman May 2014 #9
Aw, thanks. Glad you appreciated the post. Laelth May 2014 #29
Good stuff. Thanks for posting. n/t Benton D Struckcheon May 2014 #10
Thanks for the response and for the kind words. n/t Laelth May 2014 #37
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but most of his support is not for religious reasons but economic JI7 May 2014 #13
+1 nt Vehl May 2014 #20
I hope you are right. My reading of his time as governor is one of increased strife between pampango May 2014 #33
i would like to see exit poll results and see how certain groups voted , how much muslim JI7 May 2014 #40
very informative post JI7 May 2014 #12
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Thank you! I will... JackRiddler May 2014 #18
Thanks. Glad you liked it. n/t Laelth May 2014 #41
Great write-up, but not sure if we can call the BJP center right...they are pretty left Vehl May 2014 #19
Excellent post. Thanks. Laelth May 2014 #21
The Liberalism Congress stands for is anything but that. Vehl May 2014 #43
Muslims Vote Is Increasing Joel thakkar May 2014 #51
Good points Vehl May 2014 #58
Blame Sonia Gandhi. She bent over backwards to appease Dawson Leery May 2014 #55
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This is a really interesting question indeed. Vehl May 2014 #60
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Excellent post, thank you! Very interesting to read. sabrina 1 May 2014 #46
You are welcome! Vehl May 2014 #61
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A wonderful writeup seveneyes May 2014 #25
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Thx for taking the time to put all that together. nt okaawhatever May 2014 #32
My pleasure. n/t Laelth May 2014 #36
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Thank you for an excellent thread. I hope they do not squander this victory sabrina 1 May 2014 #47
My pleasure. I am glad you found the post informative. n/t Laelth May 2014 #54
thanks for the information! n/t RainDog May 2014 #38
My pleasure. n/t Laelth May 2014 #42
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n/t Joel thakkar May 2014 #52
I appreciate this very much. woo me with science May 2014 #48
Sorry for the delay: great post Recursion May 2014 #50
Large Amt of info..i have closely studied this election Joel thakkar May 2014 #53
All good info - thank you. Kber May 2014 #56
I have already made another thread Joel thakkar May 2014 #57
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