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MADem

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118. All it does, in my view, is "make the pie higher" as Dumbya used to say.

Mon May 19, 2014, 12:41 AM

May 2014

You've got people posting here, and there, and people coming from other sites to post over there and "get their fight on" with people--which they used to do HERE, and flame out/create sock/flame out over and over again--without having to hide their attitudes and viewpoints.

They can be honest about their attitudes, instead of sneaking in here under false pretences, laying low, posting K and Rs in cooking and baking and other low-stress groups until they hit that magic hundred, and then going off on people until they get their five and the admins have to get involved.

More people are posting under the DU LLC banner(s), there's less incentive to troll (but those who do will stick out in time), and good discussions can be had in both places.

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Discussionist poll #2. Digging a bit deeper.... [View all] NRaleighLiberal May 2014 OP

I deal with the mouth breathers IRL enough, no need on the internet. eom MohRokTah May 2014 #1

So for you it's Echo Chamber or nothing at all. cherokeeprogressive May 2014 #35

WTF? Do you two have history? Because if not, this makes no sense at all. Squinch May 2014 #54

That is what I was thinking, because Jamastiene May 2014 #84

I am noticing with a few posters in this and some other Squinch May 2014 #95

I don't think this is about "us." MADem May 2014 #2

interesting insights there.... NRaleighLiberal May 2014 #3

Excellent! pacalo May 2014 #8

Well, I hope I'm right--we'll see! nt MADem May 2014 #18

I think you nailed it. Agschmid May 2014 #23

i agree and hopefully it will bring back to DU some who left JI7 May 2014 #10

More safe haven and team spirit, less stealth attacking, and sometimes from the left... MADem May 2014 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #11

BTW, your avatar cracks me up! nt MADem May 2014 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #20

I couldn't believe that clip when I saw it...the expression on that woman's face was PRICELESS!!! MADem May 2014 #36

"good old, knock-down, drag out ideological fight" Number23 May 2014 #13

Well, like I say, better there than here! MADem May 2014 #16

So far I don't see much difference there than here. Except there, so far at least, it seems to be sabrina 1 May 2014 #39

I agree with that assessment. Ms. Toad May 2014 #41

Good that you're happy. I think I'll do most of my serious policy discussing here, though. MADem May 2014 #42

Lol, there is far more 'down in the dirt back and forth HERE than over there so far. sabrina 1 May 2014 #43

Like I said, if you're happy, good for you. MADem May 2014 #44

Both places work for me. If you feel safer in just one forum, I'm happy for you. The future sabrina 1 May 2014 #45

Well, I didn't say I felt "safer" but interesting that you'd derive that characterization. MADem May 2014 #48

Why do you say that Democrats were fleeing this site? Squinch May 2014 #55

Some were leaving it... KoKo May 2014 #57

Could you tell me where you found that? Squinch May 2014 #63

Check the stats Ms. Toad May 2014 #60

Is that a good source, given that they only count those who install Alexa toolbar? Squinch May 2014 #62

Moreover, there's been problems for a good chunk of the DU population trying to access the MADem May 2014 #64

The stats at the link went much farther back than a week. Ms. Toad May 2014 #79

Well, I don't have an Alexa toolbar and I'm here all the time. MADem May 2014 #83

That means it is not a good measure of the total number of views - Ms. Toad May 2014 #114

I don't know about that. All it would tell me is that it reflects the activity of MADem May 2014 #119

Probably as good as any - Ms. Toad May 2014 #77

That would only be true if the Alexa toolbar were widely used, but it isn't. Squinch May 2014 #94

No. You're missing my point. Ms. Toad May 2014 #111

And I believe you missed my point about Alexa not being a large enough sample Squinch May 2014 #117

We need longer stats. joshcryer May 2014 #89

True. n/t Ms. Toad May 2014 #112

Because they are/were. Maybe and hopefully, the new site will attract those Democrats to return. sabrina 1 May 2014 #82

What makes you think so? Do you have anything other than, "Because they are?" Squinch May 2014 #92

What does that even mean? Bobbie Jo May 2014 #99

Several points NuclearDem May 2014 #68

Are you an administrator here? You speak as if you had some extraordinary rights to advise longtime sabrina 1 May 2014 #78

Exactly, you've been here ten years. NuclearDem May 2014 #81

Hey Skinner, is MADem correct? whatchamacallit May 2014 #51

You got noticed. joshcryer May 2014 #96

And--classically, I must say--I was quoted OUT OF CONTEXT. Gee, what a surprise!!! MADem May 2014 #109

Now you're aren't considering women part of the body politic are you? BainsBane May 2014 #116

I don't see any downside of it either... penultimate May 2014 #110

All it does, in my view, is "make the pie higher" as Dumbya used to say. MADem May 2014 #118

In the words of Richard Pryor... rrneck May 2014 #4

I've gotten some good laughs Renew Deal May 2014 #5

I think I would rather talk to some of the cons than some of the banned DUers Kali May 2014 #6

Really? You actually think Right Wingers are easier to tolerate than Democrats who have not changed sabrina 1 May 2014 #40

Good luck convincing right wingers. boston bean May 2014 #98

I've had lots of experience with Right Wingers throughout the Bush era. I don't care sabrina 1 May 2014 #100

huh? Kali May 2014 #107

Okay! n/t sabrina 1 May 2014 #108

As I said on your last poll Prophet 451 May 2014 #7

I haven't noticed that hitting them stops the lying, either, so what's the difference? n/t winter is coming May 2014 #21

"Other" MadrasT May 2014 #9

Agree 100%. My first visit there I was intrigued by the numerous call outs of one of GD's favorites Number23 May 2014 #12

And the fixations are cute nadinbrzezinski May 2014 #14

Really? They use the same handles then? Cha May 2014 #31

A few do... sheshe2 May 2014 #32

I took a look too, she.. the other night and I felt like I'd walked into Cha May 2014 #33

Tis where it belongs Cha! nt sheshe2 May 2014 #34

It's kind of like Meta, but with masks. BainsBane May 2014 #15

It will probably Evolve...But..my First Take from a few days visiting..... KoKo May 2014 #22

It is simpler, but that's probably better given the target audience. MADem May 2014 #49

I like the format of the DU forum better than any other. CrispyQ May 2014 #102

It's an interesting site Terra Alta May 2014 #24

other arely staircase May 2014 #25

I'll bet everyone is over there tonight and this weekend checking it out.... KoKo May 2014 #26

I have thought this concept was a good idea for a long while. MADem May 2014 #38

I chose option # 4, but there's a lot of # 3 in my opinion. greatauntoftriplets May 2014 #27

Too soon to say, for me. winter is coming May 2014 #28

I like the layout Change has come May 2014 #29

It's very cheerful--looks like a pride flag! nt MADem May 2014 #91

I'm surrounded by them down here - TBF May 2014 #30

Bunch of cavers... ellisonz May 2014 #37

One of the big cheese ones is over there... MADem May 2014 #90

I'm enjoying the comedic value. City Lights May 2014 #46

I decided not to bother. ismnotwasm May 2014 #47

It's got some flaws that could be fatal. sufrommich May 2014 #50

There is a TOS there. The site is new, it will develop its own culture over time, I'm sure. MADem May 2014 #59

Oh my god! Threads about "hotness" even!!!! Warren DeMontague May 2014 #66

I said nothing about being outraged by it,I said it sufrommich May 2014 #67

Well it must be frustrating that there's something which isn't organized the way you think it Warren DeMontague May 2014 #69

Christ,I said nothing about feeling distress,nor did I place sufrommich May 2014 #70

Okay, fine. You don't see how celebrities might fit under "culture" as well as "fun"? Warren DeMontague May 2014 #71

My point was that the catagories are a clusterfuck.That's all. sufrommich May 2014 #72

Sure, my bad. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #75

and people have deliberately cultivated outrage BainsBane May 2014 #86

Your point is well taken. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #88

Give it a rest BainsBane May 2014 #85

It's a gorilla insurrection. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #87

Perfect BainsBane May 2014 #97

At this point, DU is what all the participants have in common. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #115

I'm not sure that polls about that new site MineralMan May 2014 #52

Being able to speak openly is a good thing. 99Forever May 2014 #53

The option to go to the Discussionist kept flashing nilesobek May 2014 #56

I've been pipi_k May 2014 #58

I like it. Being a low post count DU'er for a little over a year, 2theleft May 2014 #61

Kick KoKo May 2014 #65

I kept my name there. hunter May 2014 #73

You've got quite a way with words,I enjoyed reading that. sufrommich May 2014 #74

I find RWers infuriating, and I work with a bunch of them. Curmudgeoness May 2014 #76

All of the options are good. None of them encompass the full experience. GoneOffShore May 2014 #80

No thanks davidpdx May 2014 #93

I've spent as much time there as here the past few days. CrispyQ May 2014 #101

I like it.. EvilAL May 2014 #103

Anyone who voted # 1, I wonder how they can come to that conclusion. boston bean May 2014 #104

Interesting from the point of view of freak-show observers? maybe. nt Snotcicles May 2014 #105

Here is some more of that very interesting reading and discussing going on over there.. boston bean May 2014 #106

Are our donations helping to finance Discussion? Kingofalldems May 2014 #113