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18. human rights advocacy is very often about naming and shaming

Tue May 20, 2014, 01:03 PM

May 2014

not trying to persuade the unpersuadeable.

Putin is a pragmatist, and he will protect Assad as long as that works for Putin.

The rational approach to this would then be to move things such that it is no longer perceived to be in his interest to support Assad, just like undercutting Israel's support in the US political establishment is critical to getting a sane, productive Israel/Palestine policy out of our own government.

Pooty poot has invested a lot of time and money into propaganda outlets trying to put a veneer of respectability on Russia's international image. That's the only pressure point human rights activists have on him. lord knows the butcher of Chechnya isn't going to be swayed by calls to do the right thing

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Russia vows to veto UN resolution for international criminal court to look into allegations against [View all] pampango May 2014 OP

Will our resident rt.com-quoting Putinistas defend this or geek tragedy May 2014 #1

They will throw the wishes of 60 of the worlds countries under the bus if one of them is the US and stevenleser May 2014 #2

it always amazes me that we have foreign nationalists geek tragedy May 2014 #4

As the U.S.has done at the UN with vetoes of anti-Israel resolutions. former9thward May 2014 #33

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh malaise May 2014 #41

No shushing needed. That person missed the point. Are you defending one and not the other? nt stevenleser May 2014 #43

No one here has defended that. This is the difference. We're talking about DUers defending it. stevenleser May 2014 #42

That Dicker fellow sounds like a moron. bemildred May 2014 #3

That presumes that getting Russia and China on board with human geek tragedy May 2014 #6

It's just a fact. The details are in the story: bemildred May 2014 #8

Again, it depends on whether one's goal is to tilt at that windmill geek tragedy May 2014 #10

Prancing around like you hold some position of moral superiority won't get you far, bemildred May 2014 #17

human rights advocacy is very often about naming and shaming geek tragedy May 2014 #18

But you have to have some credibility to do that. We don't. bemildred May 2014 #19

This article is not about threats and name-calling. It's about a vote geek tragedy May 2014 #20

Which is, as you and the OP admit, purely for PR purposes, i.e. propaganda. bemildred May 2014 #21

sorry, that is an erroneous, binary, extremely US-centric misinterpretation of events. geek tragedy May 2014 #22

And you keep trying to assert we hold the moral high ground, don't you? nt bemildred May 2014 #23

who is 'we?' This resolution isn't supported by my government. nt geek tragedy May 2014 #24

The 60 nations you mentioned, who else would it be? nt bemildred May 2014 #25

I am not a citizen of one of those 60 countries. geek tragedy May 2014 #26

Good for you. bemildred May 2014 #27

well, let's just scrap all international human rights law then. geek tragedy May 2014 #28

Might as well. Everybody ignores them and uses them for propaganda. bemildred May 2014 #29

international standards exist to constrain the strong. geek tragedy May 2014 #32

International standards exist to befuddle the weak. bemildred May 2014 #38

We have all kinds of moral superiority when it comes to Russia and China. Our records in totality okaawhatever May 2014 #30

Our record certainly does speak for itself. nt bemildred May 2014 #31

records should speak for themselves. nt geek tragedy May 2014 #35

It does. nt bemildred May 2014 #39

Your point? And are you even a US citizen? nt okaawhatever May 2014 #36

Born and raised here, and very well educated too. nt bemildred May 2014 #40

The US and Israel refuse to recognize the ICC. nt. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #5

Which is relevant to France's resolution, how? nt geek tragedy May 2014 #7

It is relevant to the hypocritical poutrage here over Russia. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #9

Ah, so it's bad when the US does it but not objectionable when Russia does geek tragedy May 2014 #11

No, I didn't say that, I said we fucked up by dissing international treaty obligations, Warren Stupidity May 2014 #13

France is sponsoring the resolution, not the US. geek tragedy May 2014 #14

Your outrage is hypocritical. Warren Stupidity May 2014 #15

Sorry, I don't share your navel-gazing, US-centric view of the planet. geek tragedy May 2014 #16

We haen't ratified the Rome Treaty so we aren't members of the ICC and haven't "f'ed up or dissed" okaawhatever May 2014 #34

As do Syria and Russia. Quite an illustrious group there which we are a member of. pampango May 2014 #12

The ICC may very well get Assad one day...fingers crossed. n/t Jefferson23 May 2014 #37