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msanthrope

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5. Buzzfeed published the Assange/Greenwald feud last night.....
Tue May 20, 2014, 04:44 PM
May 2014
http://www.buzzfeed.com/miriamberger/julian-assange-is-angry-at-glenn-greenwald-and-hes-not-going

Remember when Assange wanted to out Afghanis who may have helped the US?




Assange re: Afghan Civilians: "They're informants. There's no reason for protecting them."

A very interesting interview about why the NYT's and the The Guardian's relationship with Assange soured---

"On Tuesday's Fresh Air, Keller explains why the paper decided to publish the documents, the impact of those cables and why he came to regard Julian Assange as "elusive, manipulative and volatile." Keller tells Terry Gross that during an early conversation with representatives of The Guardian, Assange was told that both The Guardian and The New York Times wanted to edit out the names of ordinary Afghan citizens in classified military documents.

"Assange's reaction was, 'Well, they're informants. There's no reason for protecting them,' " Keller says. "But I think over time, he came around to the view that at least, from a public relations point of view, it was better to allow for a certain amount of editing out of things that could cost lives."

But after the Times published the cables, their relationship with Assange went from "wary to hostile." Assange was upset, Keller says, because the Times would not link to the WikiLeaks website, which did not redact the names of low-level informants.

"Obviously, there was no way we were going to prevent people from going to the WikiLeaks website to see the documents, but as a matter of principle, we said that when we published our stories about the Afghanistan documents, we were not going to link to their website," Keller says. "We feared that it could become hit-list material for the Taliban. was deeply offended, not just that we had not linked to his website, but that we had made a point of not linking to his website. He thought we had shown disrespect."

More at link.

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/01/133277509/times-editor-th...

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Now, just imagine if you were an 'informant.' Imagine if you were a secular person who 'informed' on the Taliban bastards who burnt a school, blew up a Buddha, or killed a US soldier. Imagine if you were an 'informant' who told about a tribal leader who had wrongly sold a person to Guantanamo, ran drugs, or helped kill US soldiers.

Imagine if you told what you knew about the murder of Daniel Pearl.

Imagine thinking that what you told, in good faith to do right, was 'leaked.'

Imagine an anarchist--a world away--deciding your fate.

Imagine that because you were not HIS 'whistleblower'--you were called an 'informant.'




http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x326988

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Why wait? arcane1 May 2014 #1
+1 joshcryer May 2014 #2
Buzzfeed published the Assange/Greenwald feud last night..... msanthrope May 2014 #5
Assange admitted to revealing data that caused thousands of deaths. joshcryer May 2014 #9
I find this whole debacle fascinating. Assange seems to be trying to stay relevant, Greenwald msanthrope May 2014 #13
Oh, agreed completely. joshcryer May 2014 #16
Sarah Harrison wasn't in Berlin for nothing, josh. Sarah was no doubt the conduit. Let's remember msanthrope May 2014 #17
Yep, nice find btw. joshcryer May 2014 #19
is Poitras making anything off the book, film, and other deals greenwald is making ? JI7 May 2014 #23
No clue. joshcryer May 2014 #24
Because revealing it will be very deadly and JaneyVee May 2014 #6
Yay! Burn the world down and reboot it for our Libertarian overlords! randome May 2014 #3
Apparently, it's a fight between Greenwald and Assange--buzzfeed published their feud last night-- msanthrope May 2014 #4
I wonder... randome May 2014 #7
Ecuador was so happy to have Julian on his first anniversary.... msanthrope May 2014 #8
Ecuador has no problem with extradition. joshcryer May 2014 #10
True--I think a bit of haggling with the UK would produce the man. But, Cameron loses no msanthrope May 2014 #14
Was surprised there wasn't a 200 post thread about it. joshcryer May 2014 #12
I'm not surprised. It's a bit of a comedown. nt msanthrope May 2014 #15
Greenwald is getting Greenwalded by Assange nt geek tragedy May 2014 #11
Exactly. nt msanthrope May 2014 #18
Assange basiclly compared him to Bush, so, yeah. nt arely staircase May 2014 #20
Very interesting, more to come. K&R Jefferson23 May 2014 #21
Why does this all seem like a mini series I watched on TV? nt kelliekat44 May 2014 #22
They think they're part of this group. randome May 2014 #25
The unnamed country was revealed as Afghanistan... Blue_Tires May 2014 #26
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