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DallasNE

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16. Trayvon Martin Was Killed Instantly
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 12:06 AM
Mar 2012

So how could he have possibly said "you got me". How do we know? One eye witness said that it was only seconds after the shot was fired that someone came up with a flashlight. I presume that was the police and Martin was already motionless. But this also impacts the police report. If the policeman was on the scene within seconds he should have heard the shot himself. The police report makes no mention of this. Keep in mind that there is only a 1 minute gap between when Zimmerman was on the phone with authorities and the police arrive on the scene.

Reading between the lines from what witnesses have said and other evidence it looks like Zimmerman shoved Martin to the ground then pulled out his gun causing Martin to screem for help. Zimmerman then simply pulled the trigger and Martin either lurched, turning on his stomach, or Zimmerman then reached down and turned Martin over on his stomach, which is the position he was in when police arrived. Ballistics should show the angle the bullet travelled and testing for powder burns would determine how far away Martin was when he was shot. If it shows that Martin was shot from more than 2-3 feet we would have a smoking gun for 1st degree murder. That is how key distance is to this case. The angle would be roughly the same, whether Martin was on top of Zimmerman as he claims or Martin was shoved to the ground and shot by a standing Zimmerman. Lastly, was the bullet lodged in Martin's body or did it pass all of the way through. If it did pass all of the way through the police need to get back to the crime scene and dig up the yard looking for the spent bullet.

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Prediction CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #1
We'll see malaise Mar 2012 #2
My only hope. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #4
who? Trayvon was already talking on his phone. Noone can say Trayvon reached for his phone. robinlynne Mar 2012 #9
cancel my post. now I see what you mean. robinlynne Mar 2012 #10
Not him Zimmerman CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #23
got it. I dont see it as being complicated at all. no wounds on Trayvon's hands? no bruises on Zimme robinlynne Mar 2012 #27
Good points if they hold up. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #28
me personally/ ok. I would charge him with murder. Possibly robinlynne Mar 2012 #29
So far I am unsure. But that is good thinking. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #30
But, uncomplicaitng, trayvon is dead. Zimmerman doesn't have a scratch on him. Someone was scremain robinlynne Mar 2012 #32
Another point CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #31
Only three? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #3
Who are the lawyers? SteveABG Mar 2012 #5
if the Victim was not a black male we wouldn't be reaching for these things JI7 Mar 2012 #6
Trayvon Martin Was Killed Instantly DallasNE Mar 2012 #16
I think the evidence shows Martin was on the phone and then the minute Fawke Em Apr 2012 #38
So the girl on the phone could discern that Zimmerman pushed Martin? Vattel Mar 2012 #7
I can hear when someone is pushed. The phone does pick up more than voice sounds. Dragonfli Mar 2012 #13
Can you hear who is pushed? Vattel Mar 2012 #21
I usually do hear when someone is jostled (it happens in crowds innocently sometimes), If it Dragonfli Mar 2012 #26
That's true, the interruption would be a definite indicator. Vattel Mar 2012 #33
I get what you are saying but.. (there is always a but isn't there?) Dragonfli Apr 2012 #35
Fair enough but . . . (yes there is always a but) Vattel Apr 2012 #37
she could have heard him say "why did you push me" or "don't push me" or something. mucifer Mar 2012 #14
Or the Guardian can't get a story right to save their lives. Vattel Mar 2012 #22
she heard him drop the phone after the push SwampG8r Mar 2012 #17
Right. But the Guardian is saying that she heard Martin being pushed. Vattel Mar 2012 #24
well isnt the guardian a british paper?long distance reporting is tricky stuff SwampG8r Mar 2012 #34
THIS IS IT PINKYNOLA2 Mar 2012 #8
You signed up to post that? Enjoy your stay. K Gardner Mar 2012 #11
Well, the media is so hateful and all, don't they know that this poor man Dragonfli Mar 2012 #12
What do you mean? Zax2me Mar 2012 #18
Yes by all means turn off Fox News!! demgrrrll Mar 2012 #20
CAPS LOCK IS NOT CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESOME. N/T Ian David Mar 2012 #25
CAPS LOCK IS THE BOMB HATER DUDE /NT Dragonfli Apr 2012 #36
Well, other than THAT, what have you got? I mean, really! Simple mistakes, could have happened uppityperson Mar 2012 #15
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2012 #19
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