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Octafish

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11. What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?"
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 09:00 PM
Dec 2011
Wonder when I'll hear a politician say and mean this again?



A Liberal Definition by John F. Kennedy:
Acceptance Speech of the New York
Liberal Party Nomination


September 14, 1960

What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

But first, I would like to say what I understand the word "Liberal" to mean and explain in the process why I consider myself to be a "Liberal," and what it means in the presidential election of 1960.

In short, having set forth my view -- I hope for all time -- two nights ago in Houston, on the proper relationship between church and state, I want to take the opportunity to set forth my views on the proper relationship between the state and the citizen. This is my political credo:

I believe in human dignity as the source of national purpose, in human liberty as the source of national action, in the human heart as the source of national compassion, and in the human mind as the source of our invention and our ideas. It is, I believe, the faith in our fellow citizens as individuals and as people that lies at the heart of the liberal faith. For liberalism is not so much a party creed or set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man's ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves.

I believe also in the United States of America, in the promise that it contains and has contained throughout our history of producing a society so abundant and creative and so free and responsible that it cannot only fulfill the aspirations of its citizens, but serve equally well as a beacon for all mankind. I do not believe in a superstate. I see no magic in tax dollars which are sent to Washington and then returned. I abhor the waste and incompetence of large-scale federal bureaucracies in this administration as well as in others. I do not favor state compulsion when voluntary individual effort can do the job and do it well. But I believe in a government which acts, which exercises its full powers and full responsibilities. Government is an art and a precious obligation; and when it has a job to do, I believe it should do it. And this requires not only great ends but that we propose concrete means of achieving them.

Our responsibility is not discharged by announcement of virtuous ends. Our responsibility is to achieve these objectives with social invention, with political skill, and executive vigor. I believe for these reasons that liberalism is our best and only hope in the world today. For the liberal society is a free society, and it is at the same time and for that reason a strong society. Its strength is drawn from the will of free people committed to great ends and peacefully striving to meet them. Only liberalism, in short, can repair our national power, restore our national purpose, and liberate our national energies. And the only basic issue in the 1960 campaign is whether our government will fall in a conservative rut and die there, or whether we will move ahead in the liberal spirit of daring, of breaking new ground, of doing in our generation what Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman and Adlai Stevenson did in their time of influence and responsibility.

Our liberalism has its roots in our diverse origins. Most of us are descended from that segment of the American population which was once called an immigrant minority. Today, along with our children and grandchildren, we do not feel minor. We feel proud of our origins and we are not second to any group in our sense of national purpose. For many years New York represented the new frontier to all those who came from the ends of the earth to find new opportunity and new freedom, generations of men and women who fled from the despotism of the czars, the horrors of the Nazis, the tyranny of hunger, who came here to the new frontier in the State of New York. These men and women, a living cross section of American history, indeed, a cross section of the entire world's history of pain and hope, made of this city not only a new world of opportunity, but a new world of the spirit as well.

Tonight we salute Governor and Senator Herbert Lehman as a symbol of that spirit, and as a reminder that the fight for full constitutional rights for all Americans is a fight that must be carried on in 1961.

Many of these same immigrant families produced the pioneers and builders of the American labor movement. They are the men who sweated in our shops, who struggled to create a union, and who were driven by longing for education for their children and for the children's development. They went to night schools; they built their own future, their union's future, and their country's future, brick by brick, block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood, and now in their children's time, suburb by suburb.

Tonight we salute George Meany as a symbol of that struggle and as a reminder that the fight to eliminate poverty and human exploitation is a fight that goes on in our day. But in 1960 the cause of liberalism cannot content itself with carrying on the fight for human justice and economic liberalism here at home. For here and around the world the fear of war hangs over us every morning and every night. It lies, expressed or silent, in the minds of every American. We cannot banish it by repeating that we are economically first or that we are militarily first, for saying so doesn't make it so. More will be needed than goodwill missions or talking back to Soviet politicians or increasing the tempo of the arms race. More will be needed than good intentions, for we know where that paving leads.

In Winston Churchill's words, "We cannot escape our dangers by recoiling from them. We dare not pretend such dangers do not exist."

And tonight we salute Adlai Stevenson as an eloquent spokesman for the effort to achieve an intelligent foreign policy. Our opponents would like the people to believe that in a time of danger it would be hazardous to change the administration that has brought us to this time of danger. I think it would be hazardous not to change. I think it would be hazardous to continue four more years of stagnation and indifference here at home and abroad, of starving the underpinnings of our national power, including not only our defense but our image abroad as a friend.

This is an important election -- in many ways as important as any this century -- and I think that the Democratic Party and the Liberal Party here in New York, and those who believe in progress all over the United States, should be associated with us in this great effort. The reason that Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman and Adlai Stevenson had influence abroad, and the United States in their time had it, was because they moved this country here at home, because they stood for something here in the United States, for expanding the benefits of our society to our own people, and the people around the world looked to us as a symbol of hope.

I think it is our task to re-create the same atmosphere in our own time. Our national elections have often proved to be the turning point in the course of our country. I am proposing that 1960 be another turning point in the history of the great Republic.

Some pundits are saying it's 1928 all over again. I say it's 1932 all over again. I say this is the great opportunity that we will have in our time to move our people and this country and the people of the free world beyond the new frontiers of the 1960s.

SOURCE: http://www.liberalparty.org/JFKLPAcceptance.html
I don't like conservatives. [View all] Octafish Dec 2011 OP
Big time K and R Kingofalldems Dec 2011 #1
What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" Octafish Dec 2011 #11
K & R a million. Never forget. freshwest Dec 2011 #18
Be very careful... GTurck Dec 2011 #26
"Get out there and be nice, liberal, and tolerant to a fault." mac56 Dec 2011 #30
What Mac Said` ProfessorGAC Dec 2011 #33
+100 Myrina Dec 2011 #38
Are you insane? Hawkowl Dec 2011 #64
Possibly... GTurck Dec 2011 #74
"Let the jerks on the far right punch a pillow that can't lose its shape.. mac56 Dec 2011 #78
^^^^ blm Dec 2011 #2
Did Nixon Commit Treason in 1968? What The New LBJ Tapes Reveal. Octafish Dec 2011 #12
OMG - that Seuss / Lovecraft link! klook Dec 2011 #31
Actually this new breed of "conservatives" would make even someone like truedelphi Dec 2011 #3
Read John Dean's "Conservatives Without Conscience" hifiguy Dec 2011 #7
I bought that book but just the chapters chilled my blood. I gave it away to a young person to read. freshwest Dec 2011 #19
The "new breed" PatSeg Dec 2011 #42
Conservatism's most recent champion actually stated that "Money trumps peace." Octafish Dec 2011 #63
As far as your PS - truedelphi Dec 2011 #102
and I don't like the flu. Burgman Dec 2011 #4
Who here remembers LBJ's Great Society? Octafish Dec 2011 #66
Kickety rec! hifiguy Dec 2011 #5
How Ayn Rand Seduced Generations of Young Men and Helped Make the U.S. Into a Selfish, Greedy Nation Octafish Dec 2011 #70
That's the way I feel Autumn Dec 2011 #6
They're so greedy, they're willing to help us out by stealing our Party. Octafish Dec 2011 #71
I'll tell you one thing for sure, I'm not voting for a blue dog Autumn Dec 2011 #72
Wow, talk about a purity test! Richardo Dec 2011 #8
Just stating a fact. Octafish Dec 2011 #76
We have two parties. They have their own, let them stay there and reform it. I think we sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #93
To me, it's not personal--I don't like their ideas... Bogart Dec 2011 #9
Care to expand on that? UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #27
That is an odd comment isn't it? HangOnKids Dec 2011 #49
Personally, I try not to denigrate anyone; however, I don't have a whole lot of patience Bogart Dec 2011 #68
What the hell does that mean? UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #85
You are not a liberal; thus, you would not understand. Bogart Dec 2011 #87
I'm not? UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #89
That Isn't Necessary--We Live In An Era Where Words Can And Often Do, Bogart Dec 2011 #90
The Cambridge Academic Content Dictionary, defines liberal as: Bogart Dec 2011 #67
I thought that this is where you were going UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #92
It has nothing to do with where I am going. Per your request, I "expanded on that." Bogart Dec 2011 #96
Cute. I'm not into playing silly right wing UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #97
Clearly, you are more interested in playing games where words have no meanings. Bogart Dec 2011 #98
Thanks for making clear what I did not, Bogart. Octafish Dec 2011 #77
It's the whole "fact-free" thing that gets me Mopar151 Dec 2011 #10
Research indicates viewing Fox News makes people dumber. Octafish Dec 2011 #83
Faux viewers certainly don't like hearing this Mopar151 Dec 2011 #99
I know some conservatives that I like. ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #13
Good for you. Octafish Dec 2011 #82
Neither do I. K&R (nt) T S Justly Dec 2011 #14
K & R! lonestarnot Dec 2011 #15
I don't like conservatives either. Solly Mack Dec 2011 #16
Kick and recommend. luv_mykatz Dec 2011 #17
What's to like? Zorra Dec 2011 #20
K&R (n/t) a2liberal Dec 2011 #21
What a sad OP hfojvt Dec 2011 #22
If it's just about winning elections UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #28
If it's NOT about winning elections Richardo Dec 2011 #40
Political parties are not unlike religions. tblue Dec 2011 #56
I assume that means you're so/so on moderates? JohnnyRingo Dec 2011 #23
+1. nt MADem Dec 2011 #35
+1 Richardo Dec 2011 #41
"Corporations are our Friends" Romney's a "moderate" Republican? HughBeaumont Dec 2011 #46
I know on our scale he's on the corporate right... JohnnyRingo Dec 2011 #48
And there you have it. HughBeaumont Dec 2011 #50
I'm with you all the way JohnnyRingo Dec 2011 #55
Polygraph would'nt work on Mittens Mopar151 Dec 2011 #100
You think Romney is a moderate? Octafish Dec 2011 #81
Of course you think he's a hard nosed conservative. JohnnyRingo Dec 2011 #86
Just to be clear, I'm a Kennedy Democrat. Eleanor Roosevelt thought him too conservative. Octafish Dec 2011 #88
a certain amount of "conservatism" is necessary human balance and stability. tomp Dec 2011 #24
Yes, that is true. hifiguy Dec 2011 #37
I know! Today's 'Conservatives' are downright radical. tblue Dec 2011 #57
people can and will say just about anything. tomp Dec 2011 #91
And You'll Prevent People From Voting For Blue Dogs? KharmaTrain Dec 2011 #25
KnR 72...you go guy..... opihimoimoi Dec 2011 #29
reeducation camps?? tatfreak79 Dec 2011 #32
I don't either. Here's the thing about the rest - You can force politicians to think and act one way bigtree Dec 2011 #34
Let's talk it over--Here: Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #36
Thank you, Sir. It would be an privilege for me. Octafish Dec 2011 #65
I'd be most happy to hoist a few with yu. Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #79
I do my best to try not to find out if someone is a republican so I won't take an attitude ThomThom Dec 2011 #39
You're describing a religion, not a political party Richardo Dec 2011 #43
Now that you mention it, possibly. Octafish Dec 2011 #62
Between inability to see shades of gray and inability to see and accept facts, I dislike them too. Thor_MN Dec 2011 #44
I don't either. Raffi Ella Dec 2011 #45
Word jugglery Roy Rolling Dec 2011 #47
Yep, not many actual "conservatives" ... Martin Eden Dec 2011 #53
Thank you, Roy Rolling. That is exactly right. Octafish Dec 2011 #84
A-Fucking-Men! K & R! robertpaulsen Dec 2011 #51
I don't like corporate fascists. Here in Wisconsin we have Weimar Republicans, we are at war. bobthedrummer Dec 2011 #52
What you said. And many thanks to you Wisconsinites for getting this push back started against these lib_wit_it Dec 2011 #54
A note of dissent. mojowork_n Dec 2011 #59
Well, a lot of people claim that what you say is true, but I'm not so sure. If someone supports a lib_wit_it Dec 2011 #60
Standing up to them doesn't mean you deny their humanity. mojowork_n Dec 2011 #69
My family and self were viewed as less than human for decades. We became a longitudinal "research" bobthedrummer Dec 2011 #94
I know, Octafish. tblue Dec 2011 #58
Thanks, tblue! Remember Steve Kangas? Octafish Dec 2011 #61
Putting money above people is a natural consequence of our capitalist system ChillbertKChesterton Dec 2011 #73
The conservative vs liberal paradigm no longer exists in American government mmonk Dec 2011 #75
I can't relate to this Enrique Dec 2011 #80
The majority of the American public have been brainwashed ... kentuck Dec 2011 #95
Kick! sarcasmo Dec 2011 #101
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