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Honeycombe8

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35. Because we have two contemporaneous phone records of the confrontation....
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:56 AM
Mar 2012

One is available for hearing, now, sinceit's a 911 call by GZ. The other is related by Trayvon's girlfriend, where he calls to say someone is following him, then you hear him walking or breathing fast, then asking "Why are you following me?" which jives with GZ's 911 call.

I'm not saying that Trayvon didn't have a right to confront hte guy following him. What I'm saying is....at first, so many posters ASSUMED that GZ chased down, then shot Trayvon. Later, it was revealed, through evidence, that that is not what happened at all.

But posters have disregarded that entirely...that they were WRONG in their assumptions. And so it may be with other assumptions.

There have been no, "Oh, oops, I was wrong about my assumptions. Oops...he's not "white." Oops...he didn't chase down and coldly shoot Trayvon. Oops...he wasn't the one to confront Trayvon."

That's what I'm saying. Over and over, people have been WRONG in their assumptions. Another example: a poster posted here "Video of GZ shows not even one scratch on him!" No, "Oops, I was wrong about that," when a clearer video shows injury to the back of GZ's head. Not a large injury, but clearly a wide, deep cut that is red. Consistent with the policeman's statement about cut to back of head.

See? The facts that are coming out are different from many people's ASSUMPTIONS. Yet, it has occurred to no one to think that maybe they should wait for the results of the investigation, that they are letting their prejudices guide their judgment.

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Sadly abelenkpe Mar 2012 #3
And if one looks closer nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #4
That is very true. My family knew another family of Hispanics ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2012 #16
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The one thing cyglet Mar 2012 #6
Or, NOLALady Mar 2012 #10
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American. NOLALady Mar 2012 #13
I'm not really willing to completely say that cyglet Mar 2012 #17
There are two other NOLALady Mar 2012 #18
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Most people didn't see it on TV NOLALady Mar 2012 #20
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Are you suggesting that racial profiling didn't exist or got worse Number23 Mar 2012 #24
No. cyglet Mar 2012 #26
"I'm suggesting it may aggravate things." Number23 Mar 2012 #27
I've always thought cyglet Mar 2012 #29
I love hip hop music and have since I was a kid Number23 Mar 2012 #30
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The Truth is often uncomfortable. GopperStopper2680 Mar 2012 #8
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Jesus. BlueIris Mar 2012 #21
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I have been noticing this .. butterfly77 Mar 2012 #14
Zimm's friend and family's . sendero Mar 2012 #32
I knew a Puerto Rican of obvious predominately African descendent who hated Blacks. ieoeja Mar 2012 #15
Except some of his "facts" aren't really facts. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #22
Sure, you are waiting for "ALL the facts". You have a lot of assumptions in what you write. And you uppityperson Mar 2012 #28
Because we have two contemporaneous phone records of the confrontation.... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #35
Z did chase down and shoot T after confronting him. And Z is "white". uppityperson Mar 2012 #41
Sure, he only called him a "fucking c**n" on the 911 call. Son of Gob Mar 2012 #31
And we all know.. sendero Mar 2012 #33
Yes, there is a difference of opinion of what he says on the tape. It's not clear. BUT... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #36
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Well we know that Peru elects a local Indian for President nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #34
Trayvon Martin was stalked, attacked... Iggo Mar 2012 #40
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