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markpkessinger

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39. In one sense, you are right . . .
Thu May 22, 2014, 03:06 PM
May 2014

. . . But I think what O'Keefe was trying to do was to imply any or all of the following:

  • that since the oil industry can be seen as a competitor of the natural gas industry, the acceptance of funding for a film from a party that has a financial stake in the fracking debate discredits any value the film might have from a standpoint of investigative journalism; and/or

  • that it is hypocritical for a filmmaker who purports to care about the environment to accept funding from a party with a financial stake in an industry that is itself an environmental hazard; and/or

  • that Fox is somehow on the side of keeping America dependent upon foreign energy, as opposed to energy independence, and therefore represents a viewpoint that is un-American or unpatriotic.


The thing is, but for O'Keefe's deception, there would be a degree of truth in the first two points above. It is always legitimate at least to question the motives and/or objectivity of a film that purports to be an exposé when the production of that film has been financed in any way by parties with a vested interest in the subject the film explores. Such financing doesn't necessarily negate the truth that the film presents, but it does cause the question to be asked, and quite legitimately so. That said, however, Fox's film didn't actually receive that financing, the party offering it was fictitious in any case, Fox did not actually to do anything other than meet to talk about the possibility of such funding for one or more of his projects, and thus it cannot be said that vested interests actually had any influence of the content of the film in question.

As to the point about hypocrisy, again it's all kind of moot since there was no agreement, and neither the party nor its funds actually existed. All it really proves is that, as documentary filmmakers, Fox and his wife are always pretty desperate for funding (as are virtually all documentary filmmakers), and thus were (indeed, by their own admission), a little too eager to bite when the bait was dangled in front of them. That doesn't actually prove they are hypocrites -- it proves they were desperate to fund their projects.

As for the third point above, the response should be, of what value is 'energy independence' if the cost of attaining it is to foul our water and despoil the environment? And further, it should be noted that setting this up as an either/or choice between the oil and natural gas industries is, in fact, a false dilemma. Opposition to one doesn't imply opposition to the other.
Yes, this was entrapment, but what, exactly, is wrong about using, say, an oil company's money to djean111 May 2014 #1
"Middle East oil interests" TexasProgresive May 2014 #22
It's all about the money, eh? Trajan May 2014 #26
In one sense, you are right . . . markpkessinger May 2014 #39
Professional Smear Artistes. Octafish May 2014 #2
+1 a whole fucking bunch. Enthusiast May 2014 #7
this. navarth May 2014 #12
Yeah, why didn't the president step in? JohnnyRingo May 2014 #23
...and the expected cherry picked talking points. Sheepshank May 2014 #34
I'm still pissed about how FAST the Democratic Party Leadership threw ACORN... bvar22 May 2014 #40
Highly recommend. n/t Jefferson23 May 2014 #3
O'Keefe is what settles at the bottom of a fishtank. marmar May 2014 #4
No talent grifter Scarsdale May 2014 #15
Nah. There's nutritional value in that stuff. Catfish eat it. aquart May 2014 #30
Could Josh Fox sue O'Keefe for defamation? Or harassment? Or financial damages? DetlefK May 2014 #5
I think the term we're looking for here is "libel". surrealAmerican May 2014 #20
And stuck to his front door Warpy May 2014 #29
Placing items in a mail box is against the law maindawg May 2014 #6
He's working on behalf of corporate America, he'll never do time. Enthusiast May 2014 #8
O'Keefe's scams are rather transparent- LeftinOH May 2014 #9
That one was more than laughable. It was tragic. n/t Cleita May 2014 #11
But it was allowed to work. aquart May 2014 #31
It may have been laughable, but it is no laughing matter . . . markpkessinger May 2014 #37
Hopefully, that POS will be put on the boat to oblivion sooner rather than later. n/t Cleita May 2014 #10
More fun and games from James 'Booger' O'Keefe. navarth May 2014 #13
Can we please not compare this Sack of Shit JackInGreen May 2014 #16
The real question is who's funding him now starroute May 2014 #14
$$$ Scarsdale May 2014 #17
Welcome to DU, Scarsdale! calimary May 2014 #41
Some people are already trying to dig into this starroute May 2014 #19
On the domain name jberryhill May 2014 #33
As Josh Fox notes... blackspade May 2014 #18
Someone should get a big defamation claim against O’Keefe. Downwinder May 2014 #21
Good for Mr. Josh Fox Xyzse May 2014 #24
How can anyone take this guy seriously? KansDem May 2014 #25
They never dressed that way when they went into the offices. MohRokTah May 2014 #28
No, that isn't how he dressed . . . . markpkessinger May 2014 #38
I love it when the stinger gets stung by his own target. MohRokTah May 2014 #27
um, so how does this shitstain…. dhill926 May 2014 #32
Isn't O'Keefe on some sort of parole for a similar scam.... Sheepshank May 2014 #35
This guy should be in the 'Can' not at Cannes. MinM May 2014 #36
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