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joshcryer

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35. What impact? What changes?

Thu May 22, 2014, 10:24 PM

May 2014

Please. Carters FISA courts got empowered by this crap.

Wyden did not hold Clapper in contempt because his question was rhetorical, he knew the answer. Clapper later corrected the record after consulting his lawyers. Unlike Wyden he couldn't rely on congressional immunity.

Wyden hasn't revealed anything because it's not as horrible as the checkbook journalism pretends.

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In response to Michael Kinsley's anti-journalism review of Greenwald book [View all] grasswire May 2014 OP

Anything to protect the God of Ego. His holiness Glenn Greenwald. MohRokTah May 2014 #1

In other words, Greenwald is a poopie-head. Luminous Animal May 2014 #2

+1000! scarletwoman May 2014 #5

It is mind-boggling. Luminous Animal May 2014 #7

As Justice Douglas wrote in 1958: bigtree May 2014 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Electric Monk May 2014 #4

Deep analysis of an issue that affects our rights under the Constitution neverforget May 2014 #9

all analysis is seen through the prism of the president. KG May 2014 #12

Michael Kinsley, knave. KG May 2014 #3

I will bet you that I can guess the name of the country that Greenwald is about to expose Aerows May 2014 #8

Rather un-American type of journalist. Octafish May 2014 #10

Kinsley may have become wealthy by journalism but Whisp May 2014 #11

You mean Kingsley did not get paid by check? zeemike May 2014 #20

doesn't Rachel Maddow get paid by check too? Whisp May 2014 #24

Yes Madow too. zeemike May 2014 #54

It's not a world wide debate, Whisp May 2014 #58

Well you got me there. zeemike May 2014 #61

"Checkbook journalism" means paying sources jmowreader May 2014 #32

ALL wealthy journalists should be hung by the neck until they are dead!!!!!! Major Hogwash May 2014 #70

Well, the legal way means using government, ie, contacting Wyden. joshcryer May 2014 #13

Wyden had his chance Aerows May 2014 #14

He clearly doesn't think it's as bad as GG or Snowden. joshcryer May 2014 #17

The public reaction Aerows May 2014 #19

What impact? What changes? joshcryer May 2014 #35

You are dragging Jimmy Carter into this now? Aerows May 2014 #36

FISA is his pet. joshcryer May 2014 #38

I see Aerows May 2014 #41

Yes, FISA court secrecy is. joshcryer May 2014 #45

Lord have mercy n/t Aerows May 2014 #46

Oh, right, Ted Kennedy wrote it up. joshcryer May 2014 #48

Yes, the dearth of objectivity Aerows May 2014 #51

Indeed. Let's look backward instead of forward. Except when it is convenient to look Luminous Animal May 2014 #56

Some folks are lions when they get something right Aerows May 2014 #60

The "matter at hand" is itself a distraction. joshcryer May 2014 #63

Ron Wyden has been a sniveler for years. Only hinting at gross violations. Never delivering. Luminous Animal May 2014 #64

Wyden has been fighting for reform for years. joshcryer May 2014 #65

Wyden already knew what Snowden knew but didn't reveal shit. He sniveled Showden delivered. Luminous Animal May 2014 #66

Nah, Wyden correctly felt it could be fixed. joshcryer May 2014 #67

Show me one single thing that Wyden ever did to fix it other than whine about it. Luminous Animal May 2014 #68

Wyden, elected Senator, whiner. joshcryer May 2014 #69

you are so, so wrong grasswire May 2014 #42

Show me how. joshcryer May 2014 #44

go read these notes and quotes from recent Wyden speech grasswire May 2014 #53

Wyden revealed it March 12, 2013. joshcryer May 2014 #62

Now Greenwald's sycophants want there to be no consequences for breaking the law? baldguy May 2014 #15

I dunno why y'all keep talking about Cheney in these threads. JoeyT May 2014 #21

Because Greenwald is just as hypocritical as Cheney. baldguy May 2014 #29

Greenwald has committed crimes? Fred Drum May 2014 #31

Could you point me to a link Aerows May 2014 #33

SMEAR UPGRADE UNLOCKED!!!!! bobduca May 2014 #37

^^^ grasswire May 2014 #43

LOL Capt. Obvious May 2014 #78

LOL. woo me with science May 2014 #80

"sycophant" isn't really appropriate Fred Drum May 2014 #50

Yep. For the same reasons I didn't want Ellsberg prosecuted Luminous Animal May 2014 #52

or Scooter Libby? baldguy May 2014 #73

"Our people, merely for want of intelligence which they may rely on, are become lethargic Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #16

Brilliant detailed take down of Kinsley's review by Barry Eisler Luminous Animal May 2014 #18

K&R. Well said. Overseas May 2014 #71

Let us listen as Gertrude Stein tells us of the making of Americans: struggle4progress May 2014 #22

That says it all. freshwest May 2014 #83

People like Michael Kinsley and David Gregory are embarrassed by real journalism. pa28 May 2014 #23

He got that right, that's why there wasn't much laughter, what he said was the truth. sabrina 1 May 2014 #26

That was an amazing moment. Colbert was great that night! Overseas May 2014 #72

Whoa. Magnificent. woo me with science May 2014 #79

That was epic! Enthusiast May 2014 #82

Mmm, so Michael Kinsley worked for the Government all those years. sabrina 1 May 2014 #25

oh, they dig a free press, as long as it doesn't tell the truth about thier fave politico KG May 2014 #28

Well... WillyT May 2014 #27

Ok, you have a typo in the quote, but don't change a thing. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #84

Well, there are mewling authoritarian toadies Maedhros May 2014 #30

"mewling authoritarian toadies" bobduca May 2014 #39

Kinsley's opinion is trusted based on what? He is pro-austerity measures,how fucking dumb is that? Jefferson23 May 2014 #34

It also thinks that it is A-OK to dump toxic waste on poor countries because they get paid for Luminous Animal May 2014 #40

Wonderful. He is a self proclaimed liberal?? Who the hell does he think he's fooling? Jefferson23 May 2014 #49

He played a liberal on TV for a long while. Enthusiast May 2014 #74

I don't actually recall him or the show..but from what I have read so far, his Jefferson23 May 2014 #75

Yup, he was designated liberal fall guy on that show bobduca May 2014 #77

At the time I didn't realize how we were being taken in. Enthusiast May 2014 #81

I've been told that all of this Aerows May 2014 #47

Michael Kinsley G_j May 2014 #55

prep school brat, then Harvard, then Oxford grasswire May 2014 #57

Perhaps Kinsley is referring to moondust May 2014 #59

So the press is no better than Wikileaks, is that it? randome May 2014 #76