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freshwest

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107. Well, what the French are doing is nuts, then. They're attacking everyone to feed a state industry.
Fri May 23, 2014, 02:00 AM
May 2014

I used to believe in the balance of conservatives against others (progressive and liberals) to keep a balance between state and private business.

The Nordqist 'aastarve the beast' and his 'we only want a man with working digits as POTUS to sign off on the laws already written' by private funds is not democracy, it's not of any advantage to the majority of this country, only a very select few.

The Koch Libertarian plan - is not a balance, it's the road to theocracy and a new version of feudalism. The destruction of all that unified this country is their goal, to break it up and sell it all off.

And they're very close to achieving all these goals, here is the list:


Here are just a few excerpts of the Libertarian Party platform that David Koch ran on in 1980:

“We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal Election Commission.”
“We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.”
“We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance abortion services.”
“We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry.”
“We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary.”
“We propose the abolition of the governmental Postal Service. The present system, in addition to being inefficient, encourages governmental surveillance of private correspondence. Pending abolition, we call for an end to the monopoly system and for allowing free competition in all aspects of postal service.”
“We oppose all personal and corporate income taxation, including capital gains taxes.”
“We support the eventual repeal of all taxation.”
“As an interim measure, all criminal and civil sanctions against tax evasion should be terminated immediately.”
“We support repeal of all law which impede the ability of any person to find employment, such as minimum wage laws.”
“We advocate the complete separation of education and State. Government schools lead to the indoctrination of children and interfere with the free choice of individuals. Government ownership, operation, regulation, and subsidy of schools and colleges should be ended.”
“We condemn compulsory education laws … and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws.”
“We support the repeal of all taxes on the income or property of private schools, whether profit or non-profit.”
“We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency.”
“We support abolition of the Department of Energy.”
“We call for the dissolution of all government agencies concerned with transportation, including the Department of Transportation.”
“We demand the return of America's railroad system to private ownership. We call for the privatization of the public roads and national highway system.”
“We specifically oppose laws requiring an individual to buy or use so-called "self-protection" equipment such as safety belts, air bags, or crash helmets.”
“We advocate the abolition of the Federal Aviation Administration.”
“We advocate the abolition of the Food and Drug Administration.”
“We support an end to all subsidies for child-bearing built into our present laws, including all welfare plans and the provision of tax-supported services for children.”
“We oppose all government welfare, relief projects, and ‘aid to the poor’ programs. All these government programs are privacy-invading, paternalistic, demeaning, and inefficient. The proper source of help for such persons is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals.”
“We call for the privatization of the inland waterways, and of the distribution system that brings water to industry, agriculture and households.”
“We call for the repeal of the Occupational Safety and Health Act.”
“We call for the abolition of the Consumer Product Safety Commission.”
“We support the repeal of all state usury laws.”

In other words, the agenda of the Koch brothers is not only to defund Obamacare. The agenda of the Koch brothers is to repeal every major piece of legislation that has been signed into law over the past 80 years that has protected the middle class, the elderly, the children, the sick, and the most vulnerable in this country...

Tomorrow it will be Social Security, ending Medicare as we know it, repealing the minimum wage. It seems to me that the Koch brothers will not be content until they get everything they believe they are entitled to.

Our great nation can no longer be hijacked by right-wing billionaires like the Koch brothers.

For the sake of our children and our grandchildren, for the sake of our economy, we have got to let democracy prevail.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024806298

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/koch-brothers

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a7980koch

And the Koch brothers made a great fortune by bleeding the taxpayers for subsidies, influencing laws with that money, and they are in the home stretch. Honestly, the Europeans aren't as brain dead as Americans are on this.

While France and a few other nations there suck, there is nothing to compare to what is being done to us. I am not an anarchist by no means, no more than I am a full state supporter. Because I battle with them everyday in my personal life and have been for years.

But leaving the game to the current crop of criminals is not going to help anyone but the crooks.

Obama has done all he can to protect business and make it profitable for them in the USA and get them to employ people, but there is so much reactionary force being exerted to dissolve our government, and for no good reason, that the good that government can and does do daily for people, can't be underestimated.

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not to me, cantbeserious. Unfortunately. But then I will be following roguevalley May 2014 #96
I hope they're terrified malaise May 2014 #3
They have had how many chances to not be assholes? randys1 May 2014 #26
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! xchrom May 2014 #5
Exactamente! (nt) paleotn May 2014 #7
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Paulson with Co-Conspirators: bvar22 May 2014 #49
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+ n/t BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #55
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Well, what the French are doing is nuts, then. They're attacking everyone to feed a state industry. freshwest May 2014 #107
About 80% of the French would agree with you. DFW May 2014 #120
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Actually, the things that the GOP throw in are in the Koch funded ALEC laws. I've got to go, but freshwest May 2014 #122
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