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joshcryer

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69. Wyden, elected Senator, whiner.

Fri May 23, 2014, 02:06 AM

May 2014

GG, bloviating pundit liar, fighter for rights.

Wyden drafted the damn amendment which would've stopped bulk data collection, but the House Republicans voted on a draft that gives the NSA its way.

If Wyden was just a whiner why would Snowden refer to himself as Wyden-esque?

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In response to Michael Kinsley's anti-journalism review of Greenwald book [View all] grasswire May 2014 OP

Anything to protect the God of Ego. His holiness Glenn Greenwald. MohRokTah May 2014 #1

In other words, Greenwald is a poopie-head. Luminous Animal May 2014 #2

+1000! scarletwoman May 2014 #5

It is mind-boggling. Luminous Animal May 2014 #7

As Justice Douglas wrote in 1958: bigtree May 2014 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Electric Monk May 2014 #4

Deep analysis of an issue that affects our rights under the Constitution neverforget May 2014 #9

all analysis is seen through the prism of the president. KG May 2014 #12

Michael Kinsley, knave. KG May 2014 #3

I will bet you that I can guess the name of the country that Greenwald is about to expose Aerows May 2014 #8

Rather un-American type of journalist. Octafish May 2014 #10

Kinsley may have become wealthy by journalism but Whisp May 2014 #11

You mean Kingsley did not get paid by check? zeemike May 2014 #20

doesn't Rachel Maddow get paid by check too? Whisp May 2014 #24

Yes Madow too. zeemike May 2014 #54

It's not a world wide debate, Whisp May 2014 #58

Well you got me there. zeemike May 2014 #61

"Checkbook journalism" means paying sources jmowreader May 2014 #32

ALL wealthy journalists should be hung by the neck until they are dead!!!!!! Major Hogwash May 2014 #70

Well, the legal way means using government, ie, contacting Wyden. joshcryer May 2014 #13

Wyden had his chance Aerows May 2014 #14

He clearly doesn't think it's as bad as GG or Snowden. joshcryer May 2014 #17

The public reaction Aerows May 2014 #19

What impact? What changes? joshcryer May 2014 #35

You are dragging Jimmy Carter into this now? Aerows May 2014 #36

FISA is his pet. joshcryer May 2014 #38

I see Aerows May 2014 #41

Yes, FISA court secrecy is. joshcryer May 2014 #45

Lord have mercy n/t Aerows May 2014 #46

Oh, right, Ted Kennedy wrote it up. joshcryer May 2014 #48

Yes, the dearth of objectivity Aerows May 2014 #51

Indeed. Let's look backward instead of forward. Except when it is convenient to look Luminous Animal May 2014 #56

Some folks are lions when they get something right Aerows May 2014 #60

The "matter at hand" is itself a distraction. joshcryer May 2014 #63

Ron Wyden has been a sniveler for years. Only hinting at gross violations. Never delivering. Luminous Animal May 2014 #64

Wyden has been fighting for reform for years. joshcryer May 2014 #65

Wyden already knew what Snowden knew but didn't reveal shit. He sniveled Showden delivered. Luminous Animal May 2014 #66

Nah, Wyden correctly felt it could be fixed. joshcryer May 2014 #67

Show me one single thing that Wyden ever did to fix it other than whine about it. Luminous Animal May 2014 #68

Wyden, elected Senator, whiner. joshcryer May 2014 #69

you are so, so wrong grasswire May 2014 #42

Show me how. joshcryer May 2014 #44

go read these notes and quotes from recent Wyden speech grasswire May 2014 #53

Wyden revealed it March 12, 2013. joshcryer May 2014 #62

Now Greenwald's sycophants want there to be no consequences for breaking the law? baldguy May 2014 #15

I dunno why y'all keep talking about Cheney in these threads. JoeyT May 2014 #21

Because Greenwald is just as hypocritical as Cheney. baldguy May 2014 #29

Greenwald has committed crimes? Fred Drum May 2014 #31

Could you point me to a link Aerows May 2014 #33

SMEAR UPGRADE UNLOCKED!!!!! bobduca May 2014 #37

^^^ grasswire May 2014 #43

LOL Capt. Obvious May 2014 #78

LOL. woo me with science May 2014 #80

"sycophant" isn't really appropriate Fred Drum May 2014 #50

Yep. For the same reasons I didn't want Ellsberg prosecuted Luminous Animal May 2014 #52

or Scooter Libby? baldguy May 2014 #73

"Our people, merely for want of intelligence which they may rely on, are become lethargic Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #16

Brilliant detailed take down of Kinsley's review by Barry Eisler Luminous Animal May 2014 #18

K&R. Well said. Overseas May 2014 #71

Let us listen as Gertrude Stein tells us of the making of Americans: struggle4progress May 2014 #22

That says it all. freshwest May 2014 #83

People like Michael Kinsley and David Gregory are embarrassed by real journalism. pa28 May 2014 #23

He got that right, that's why there wasn't much laughter, what he said was the truth. sabrina 1 May 2014 #26

That was an amazing moment. Colbert was great that night! Overseas May 2014 #72

Whoa. Magnificent. woo me with science May 2014 #79

That was epic! Enthusiast May 2014 #82

Mmm, so Michael Kinsley worked for the Government all those years. sabrina 1 May 2014 #25

oh, they dig a free press, as long as it doesn't tell the truth about thier fave politico KG May 2014 #28

Well... WillyT May 2014 #27

Ok, you have a typo in the quote, but don't change a thing. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #84

Well, there are mewling authoritarian toadies Maedhros May 2014 #30

"mewling authoritarian toadies" bobduca May 2014 #39

Kinsley's opinion is trusted based on what? He is pro-austerity measures,how fucking dumb is that? Jefferson23 May 2014 #34

It also thinks that it is A-OK to dump toxic waste on poor countries because they get paid for Luminous Animal May 2014 #40

Wonderful. He is a self proclaimed liberal?? Who the hell does he think he's fooling? Jefferson23 May 2014 #49

He played a liberal on TV for a long while. Enthusiast May 2014 #74

I don't actually recall him or the show..but from what I have read so far, his Jefferson23 May 2014 #75

Yup, he was designated liberal fall guy on that show bobduca May 2014 #77

At the time I didn't realize how we were being taken in. Enthusiast May 2014 #81

I've been told that all of this Aerows May 2014 #47

Michael Kinsley G_j May 2014 #55

prep school brat, then Harvard, then Oxford grasswire May 2014 #57

Perhaps Kinsley is referring to moondust May 2014 #59

So the press is no better than Wikileaks, is that it? randome May 2014 #76