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Sheepshank

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16. Please stop promoting this lie

Fri May 23, 2014, 03:52 PM

May 2014

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/fleeting-illusory-supermajority

Wallace believes the Dems’ “filibuster proof majority in the Senate” lasted 24 months. In reality, he’s off by 20 months, undermining the entire thesis pushed so aggressively by Republicans.

The whole timeline f events is at the link, but finishes with the statment I added above...4 Months, 16 weeks is all there was.

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President Obama: "The problem is I don�t have enough votes -- full stop" [View all] bigtree May 2014 OP

It couldn't be clearer. n/t yallerdawg May 2014 #1

We had the Senate and House from 2007 until 2011 yeoman6987 May 2014 #7

We did not. Skidmore May 2014 #9

And we won't even mention... yallerdawg May 2014 #13

Nobody said super majority yeoman6987 May 2014 #30

You don't really 'control' the senate without a super majority... Blanks May 2014 #40

Sorry, strawman. Reagan was successful. Nixon was successful. Tommymac May 2014 #43

there has NEVER been a sufficient number of republicans willing to bend to progressive legislation bigtree May 2014 #46

If BHO had played his cards right Tommymac May 2014 #52

Obama should have come down hard on the banks and the crimes of the previous JDPriestly May 2014 #63

This is the truth. During PBO's terms the R's have never been willing to work with him or the Dems. bluesbassman May 2014 #54

Sigh, Another Glass Half empty view. Tommymac May 2014 #68

Without an at least somewhat willing opposition party to work with, bluesbassman May 2014 #70

Reagan and Nixon were working with democrats as the opposing party... Blanks May 2014 #60

Don't put words in my mouth please. Tommymac May 2014 #66

Reagan was successful. Nixon was successful. DonCoquixote May 2014 #81

Reagan's and Nixon's Senates didn't filibuster EVERYTHING jmowreader May 2014 #94

The one big difference? yallerdawg May 2014 #98

I'm going to disagree with this statement jmowreader May 2014 #105

Huh? Reagan had to raise taxes 3 times because of Congress. Nixon had to start the EPA Recursion May 2014 #107

Please stop promoting this lie Sheepshank May 2014 #16

No, we had it for less than a month. The Senate required a supermajority to overcome pnwmom May 2014 #41

Again, 2009-2011 was the most productive Congress in *decades* Recursion May 2014 #106

Obama's right--we need more Democrats to get out and vote. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #2

He's not wrong. n/t TDale313 May 2014 #3

If moderate and conservate Dems show up for the midterms, we will win back the House. Rex May 2014 #4

If the Far Left stops joining the Republicans to depress the vote by also telling them VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #10

Funny, I've never had a friend in RL think that way...I've only seen 3 or 4 people here type that. Rex May 2014 #12

and no wonder they don't..the ones who present themselves as the "smartest ones in class" VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #15

I am always wary of anyone telling me 'both parties are the same'. Rex May 2014 #18

Typically yes... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #20

I agree, and since I have seen people type it here with my own eyes. Rex May 2014 #24

But what we are really talking about motivating is the proverbial "mushy middle" VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #27

True, we need the mushy middle not to be so flippant. Rex May 2014 #29

They sure as shit have no problem trying "shame" everyone else for voting for Democrats VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #31

I have a hard time believeing someone is a Democrat if they shame others for voting D. Rex May 2014 #34

Well some are not really Democrats thats for sure....they just have no where else to go... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #73

Maybe the president ought to stop colluding with House Republicans... grasswire May 2014 #35

Another example ^^^ VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #80

It's absurd to think these non-voters are reading or listening to... WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #78

I didn't mean THEM..... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #82

Ok, so it's not the "far left" media influencing these non-voters, it's... WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #87

Are there DU'ers that are farther Left than you are? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #88

I don't keep tabs on the left-ness of my fellow DUers. WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #93

Of course you don't....figures... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #95

What letter must they wear in their shame? WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #97

I have been doing that all along....this is in conjunction VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #99

If you think "shaming" those who criticize Obama Administration policies... WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #100

We elected O with a majority in the House and a Super in the Senate... Demo_Chris May 2014 #5

revisionist doo doo bigtree May 2014 #8

+1 Rex May 2014 #26

exactly...+++1 VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #28

+1 Great link bigtree. sheshe2 May 2014 #65

+1 uponit7771 May 2014 #103

Instead of revising history...how about a little light reading Sheepshank May 2014 #19

See #9. Skidmore May 2014 #22

Marlarkey.... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #23

Yeah revisionist history is sad. Rex May 2014 #25

Yet Obamacare saved your life... JaneyVee May 2014 #72

Apparently that wore off really quick... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #74

Obama literally saved his life and they still complain. JaneyVee May 2014 #75

I know right? Even literally saving your very life is not good enough for some folks! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #76

I feel the same way. 840high May 2014 #101

"Enthusiasms, enthusiasms......" Guy Whitey Corngood May 2014 #6

I simply do not believe any Third Way politician ... 1000words May 2014 #11

I think you're right about governing bigtree May 2014 #17

+11111111 Tommymac May 2014 #44

Your Honor....example 3! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #83

President Obama said Leme May 2014 #14

In this debate fredamae May 2014 #21

In 2010 we tried to give him Democrats who would support his agenda. bvar22 May 2014 #32

The writing was on the wall a few years earlier ... 1000words May 2014 #33

.. and even before that in Minnesota. bvar22 May 2014 #36

Didn't Lamont win and didn't Obama back him in the general and didn't he still lose? Drunken Irishman May 2014 #39

Bush got what he wanted without 60 republican votes bigtree May 2014 #37

Bush had the Will of the People behind him. Tommymac May 2014 #45

check the polls bigtree May 2014 #48

But he lost the Trust of The People. Tommymac May 2014 #58

Lost the will of the people and re-elected JoePhilly May 2014 #67

Bush also passed almost none of his agenda after 2003 Recursion May 2014 #108

Oh Really? bvar22 May 2014 #110

So, had he only backed Lincoln's opponent in Arkansas, everything would've been fine? Drunken Irishman May 2014 #38

^^^This^^^ Seeking Serenity May 2014 #49

"destined to be unfulfilled" bvar22 May 2014 #56

That is what WE want to know. bvar22 May 2014 #53

There's not THAT much organized labor in Arkansas Seeking Serenity May 2014 #55

Bill Halter was endorsed and funded by NATIONAL Labor Unions among others. bvar22 May 2014 #57

I'm sorry, but that just wasn't realistic. Seeking Serenity May 2014 #62

It was realistic enough to scare the White House into spending a BUNCH of money.. bvar22 May 2014 #71

Who knows? Maybe they thought she was the best to keep the seat... Drunken Irishman May 2014 #77

if they don't know that by now they never will (and they DO know it) MisterP May 2014 #51

It proves Blanche Lincoln was working for, not against BO when she dragged her feet on ACA. GoneFishin May 2014 #85

BINGO!!! bvar22 May 2014 #111

it might help if Obama were actually a Progressive nikto May 2014 #42

Obama had plenty of Political Coin because The Will of the People supported him Tommymac May 2014 #47

Nailed It. bvar22 May 2014 #50

Indeed he did Oilwellian May 2014 #64

What a steaming pile of pie in the sky horse shit. phleshdef May 2014 #90

+ a bazillion Bobbie Jo May 2014 #102

+1 uponit7771 May 2014 #104

Okay, straight from the horse's mouth, and in a nutshell. QuestForSense May 2014 #59

Obama is so right. I wish I could do something to help. JDPriestly May 2014 #61

Meh. You get the votes for what you believe in. morningfog May 2014 #69

Two follow-up questions for the president Doctor_J May 2014 #79

you know his position on those issues, but even if he agreed with your positions bigtree May 2014 #84

But if he is going to enact a Republican agenda, and everyone knows that, the 2008 voters Doctor_J May 2014 #86

republican agenda? bigtree May 2014 #89

What else would you call it? Doctor_J May 2014 #91

I'd have to shut one eye and turn my head halfway around to see that as his entire agenda bigtree May 2014 #92

Plus a million Hekate May 2014 #96

I can think of 100 captions for that pic 4_TN_TITANS May 2014 #109