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LTX

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38. I don't care what you choose to eat. But you are advocating a position
Sat May 24, 2014, 04:33 PM
May 2014

that attempts to outlaw (or at the least regulate into unavailability) what others choose to eat. And you are doing so on the alleged basis that the "genes" in those foods have been improperly manipulated.

Yet curiously, you don't offer any rational distinction between "proper" and "improper" gene manipulation, and you assiduously avoid the fact of your own consumption of radically modified foods.

Instead, you offer only the rather bizarre notion that the foods you choose to eat "have only been under cultivation for a hundred or more years." Are you joking with that? Do you think wheat was genetically unchanged from its moment of speciation to 1914?

For crying out loud, where do you think contemporary bananas (perhaps the most singularly, genetically manipulated concoction we have yet to create) came from? Hell, they aren't even really classifiable. Or the beef, chicken, pork, tomatoes, wheat, squash, apples, pears, peaches, etc. etc. that you regularly consume? Did they come into their current iteration in the last hundred years (or did you intend that "hundred or more years" to be an escape clause that lets you push back genetic modifications by 5, 50, or 500 thousand years, give or take)? We (and nature itself) have been radically altering the genetic makeup of every damn thing we put in our mouths for thousands of years. But I suppose the horizontal gene transfer in GMOs are just too darn overt and sciencey to accept, as opposed to the horizontal gene transfer that you otherwise accept without questioning because, well, to put it bluntly, you don't know anything about it.

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Some of us don't believe in the heat induced hallucinations of itinerant sheepherders. hobbit709 May 2014 #1
:-) JayhawkSD May 2014 #11
Thbpt. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #2
The plethora of posts here about LTX May 2014 #3
Some people might think of it that way. You obviously do. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #6
+1. nt bemildred May 2014 #9
Do you apply this same reasoning to LTX May 2014 #10
Various of them, yes. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #13
But of course, you eat genetically modified foods LTX May 2014 #16
Troll, troll, troll your boat, gently down the stream... Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #17
You are trying to force government mandates based on your preferences, not on the science. HuckleB May 2014 #19
We have all sorts of labeling that is not based on science. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #21
Name these labels. HuckleB May 2014 #22
Why do I what? Want labels? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #23
Thanks for you usual mindless anti-GMO cliches. HuckleB May 2014 #25
My 'usual', eh? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #29
"Pro-GMO websites?" HuckleB May 2014 #34
My claims were Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #37
Under that justification, we should be "waiting and seeing" for every type of hybrid available. HuckleB May 2014 #42
Oh, and I named those labels in the comment above. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #24
So you can't name any actual labels mandated without a scientific basis. HuckleB May 2014 #26
HUh? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #27
Those are voluntary labels by manufacturers. HuckleB May 2014 #28
So exactly what is wrong with voluntary GMO-free labeling? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #30
You are wasting your time, however, if you want to know about food labels: bemildred May 2014 #31
And what does that have to do with the promotion of government mandated labels for GMOs? HuckleB May 2014 #33
You got me. nt bemildred May 2014 #36
I've never said anything is wrong with voluntary labels. HuckleB May 2014 #32
Well, wait then, we may have just come to something we agree on. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #35
I have nothing against voluntary labels, as long as they're accurate. HuckleB May 2014 #41
I actually don't do milk much at all. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #43
I don't drink milk either, but my kid does. HuckleB May 2014 #45
Do you can? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #51
I have not quite been that motivated. HuckleB May 2014 #55
One data point. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #56
Yup. The majority of my corn does become squirrel and raccoon food. HuckleB May 2014 #57
I don't care what you choose to eat. But you are advocating a position LTX May 2014 #38
Actually, my position is that Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #40
So how, exactly, do we label bananas? n/t LTX May 2014 #44
Why "Gluten Free," of course! HuckleB May 2014 #46
Hah. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #47
And poor, overly dramatic science reporting. HuckleB May 2014 #49
Yup. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #52
Exactly. HuckleB May 2014 #54
Or maybe, "genetically modified in the extreme, LTX May 2014 #48
LOL roody May 2014 #4
There is more to this thinking business than just slapping a couple ideas together. nt bemildred May 2014 #5
Indeed. A lesson often lost LTX May 2014 #7
Fat chance of that, right? nt bemildred May 2014 #8
I'm inclined to dislike genetic modification which... JayhawkSD May 2014 #12
Seed companies have not allowed seed saving for 50 years. HuckleB May 2014 #58
Who knew that the EU was controlled by "creationists"? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #14
Don't forget China and Russia. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #18
It's certainly not controlled by those who care about the science of the matter. HuckleB May 2014 #20
Abracadabra GeorgeGist May 2014 #15
and by that logic pro-GM is all Hooveroids MisterP May 2014 #39
Deuteronomy 22.11 doesn't mean what you think it does jmowreader May 2014 #50
Right. And properly directed to ... ? LTX May 2014 #53
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