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billhicks76

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23. I Don't have Empathy Either

Sat May 24, 2014, 11:38 PM

May 2014

But none of us should pretend we know him. The money, cars or parental love didn't mean anything to him as he gavr them all up. He is obviously super disturbed and I wouldn't be making affluenza connections just yet. It's definitely not his looks if he was unsuccessful with girls. He does look like a very small, frail kid and from what I've seen of bullying those are the kids that are picked on and other weak kids always jump in and join the bullying the strong kids do so they feel stronger when they are not and it snowballs. There will be no easy answers. I should read his manifesto and maybe that will help. Seems like a perfect storm of sociopath, spoiled snobbery, helplessness, bullying and lack of friends and most probably brain wiring gone awry.

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From Elliot Rodger's memoir: "I truly had no advantage at all. The Universe was not kind to me" [View all] cali May 2014 OP

his facebook page cali May 2014 #1

He certainly was in love with himself Cali_Democrat May 2014 #4

That's what's on most peoples facebook pages Renew Deal May 2014 #29

Link to his manifesto, a pitful, pathetic human being: joshcryer May 2014 #54

If there is an afterlife DonCoquixote May 2014 #2

It wasn't just he money. He had many advantages. cali May 2014 #3

he was jealous and angry of others having anything he didn't from his first memory at three. bettyellen May 2014 #5

Mental health issues for sure. nt Logical May 2014 #6

Do we know if he was diagnosed with Mental Illness phil89 May 2014 #102

He makes mention in his "manifesto" SoCalNative May 2014 #105

I know you are ready to execute him already! n-t Logical May 2014 #109

In his "manifesto" wheniwasincongress May 2014 #7

I have come to really dislike the word woo to describe roguevalley May 2014 #22

How about "bullshit" wheniwasincongress May 2014 #27

I agree, and you know what? whathehell May 2014 #103

I caught a blurb of that as well... Mojo Electro May 2014 #81

What he really wanted was standingtall May 2014 #8

sociopath. he didn't grasp or care that other people existed in their own right. cali May 2014 #14

^^^THIS^^^ Tom Ripley May 2014 #43

He would have made PasadenaTrudy May 2014 #28

Yes, so sad he wasn't better at advanced mathematics hatrack May 2014 #62

you aren't kidding about the raging snob thing, holy crap! m-lekktor May 2014 #9

Reading it is a disservice to 14 grieving parents. Fred Sanders May 2014 #13

no it's not. and it's not disrespectful either. And I'm quite certain that you have no right to cali May 2014 #15

It is my opinion. Nothing to do with the parents. I bet they would agree, let the experts read it. Fred Sanders May 2014 #85

It might be a useful study on these types of people. Ash_F May 2014 #51

Of course. You, I and the media, we will misuse it, no expertise at all. Fred Sanders May 2014 #84

You speak for no one but yourself. Inkfreak May 2014 #87

More a way to avoid empty speculation, preferred method of the media and too many viewers. Fred Sanders May 2014 #88

That's fair. Ash_F May 2014 #89

As for why the parents didn't seek help sooner, or the proper help Lee-Lee May 2014 #10

I wouldn't jump to conclusions and blame the parents too much bhikkhu May 2014 #16

this kid needed intensive intervention by the time he was 4. have you read his memoir/manifesto? cali May 2014 #17

you're pretty right demigoddess May 2014 #100

Well then these parents aren't common as they called the police on their son SomethingFishy May 2014 #108

"A few weeks ago" Lee-Lee May 2014 #111

Armchair bullshit... SomethingFishy May 2014 #113

Life Lesson #1 The Universe as a whole could care less about you. hobbit709 May 2014 #11

"I kept searching for a job, but I still wasn't able to find one cali May 2014 #12

He reminds me of... CSStrowbridge May 2014 #18

The difference, however, is that the vast majority of them don't go on a killing spree. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #24

He was a subscriber to a multitude of pick-up artist and "men's rights" accounts !!! lunasun May 2014 #30

I skimmed through this and sort of came to the roguevalley May 2014 #31

....ya I skimmed it to and every paragraph I skimmed was jaw dropping Cali_Democrat May 2014 #41

... ellisonz May 2014 #48

megalomania, delusions of grandeur, etc... Blue_Tires May 2014 #56

Even the lottery was against him. I found it most amazing that kept expecting to win valerief May 2014 #80

The tone of the memoir was familiar betsuni May 2014 #19

Does it resemble the Unibomber Monifesto? AngryAmish May 2014 #72

It exudes a sense of superioity and narcisissm, but bears no resembence to the Unibomber Manifesto JHB May 2014 #98

He's an affluenza assoholic waste of oxygen. nt valerief May 2014 #20

No. He was a sociopath/psychopath. That he had an affluent background may have enhanced that cali May 2014 #21

He seems too preoccupied with the acceptance of others to be a psychopath. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #32

he didn't want to be accepted. he wanted to dominate because of his self-perceived superiority. cali May 2014 #58

Right. H2O Man May 2014 #67

hi, H20 Man, how are things in northern NY? cali May 2014 #69

The weather is beautiful! H2O Man May 2014 #77

He's not a psychopath. Mojo Electro May 2014 #82

Some are H2O Man May 2014 #86

True. Mojo Electro May 2014 #92

I don't know what personality disorder that Elliot Rodgers had, but it could be sociopath okojo May 2014 #99

+1 ellisonz May 2014 #46

I Don't have Empathy Either billhicks76 May 2014 #23

Stabbed? billhicks76 May 2014 #25

Or doped them somehow to subdue them. nt valerief May 2014 #83

Narcissism run amok. maced666 May 2014 #26

asperger's ellennelle May 2014 #33

+1 nt Live and Learn May 2014 #39

I look at this video from 2010 so he was 17/18y.o. gvstn May 2014 #40

His last psychiatrist prescribed risperidone which he refused to take. He had Xanax but didn't seaglass May 2014 #42

This is the nail hit squarely on the head. defacto7 May 2014 #44

+1 nt yuiyoshida May 2014 #49

ok you DonCoquixote May 2014 #55

+1000 dawg May 2014 #61

+100!! that post you responded to was very offensive freeplessinseattle May 2014 #66

She is speaking to a non-aspie audience defacto7 May 2014 #95

ok, but DonCoquixote May 2014 #97

Understood. defacto7 May 2014 #104

+100000 Jamastiene May 2014 #112

You should post more LittleBlue May 2014 #76

+1 for good information flamingdem May 2014 #90

The condition did not cause this tragedy. defacto7 May 2014 #96

conscience DonCoquixote May 2014 #94

Hard to diagnosis the dead. McCamy Taylor May 2014 #34

He doesn't remind me remotely of any schizophrenic I've known or worked with. cali May 2014 #59

The dude probably had a promising career on Wall St. given his personality trait. adirondacker May 2014 #35

No way. woolldog May 2014 #38

It's possible Blue_Tires May 2014 #52

Maybe. woolldog May 2014 #57

definitely NOT schizophrenic, nor schizo-affective ellennelle May 2014 #36

Isn't there some kind of tell defacto7 May 2014 #47

Well said; H2O Man May 2014 #68

I'm reading his manifesto now... woolldog May 2014 #37

How do we know what his parents tried to do? pnwmom May 2014 #45

It's pretty well defined and documented defacto7 May 2014 #50

I think the bigger topic should be the "murder spree" DontTreadOnMe May 2014 #53

I wonder how successful these murder sprees would be if our culture wasn't valerief May 2014 #64

I have no background in psychology, but there isn't a scintilla of doubt in my mind GreenEyedLefty May 2014 #60

Some things can't be fixed Abq_Sarah May 2014 #106

He got his twisted thinking from MRA sites. boston bean May 2014 #63

his thinking was twisted by the time he was a very young child. that is crystal clear in his 141 cali May 2014 #70

I think his view of his childhood written when he was older boston bean May 2014 #74

Do you wonder why they sent him off to an all-male English malaise May 2014 #65

I read every word of the manifesto. sociopath/psychopath- and I've worked with both cali May 2014 #71

He was one sick human being malaise May 2014 #79

His manifesto Abq_Sarah May 2014 #107

He wanted the sexiest dames and didn't realize he was a weirdo to them. WinkyDink May 2014 #73

He wasn't just looking to get laid. He deserved the ones boston bean May 2014 #75

Exactly. And to think: He was a "gentleman," not one of those lucky "brutes"! WinkyDink May 2014 #110

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #78

Here we go again - TBF May 2014 #91

Agreed defacto7 May 2014 #93

That's a good way to put it - TBF May 2014 #101