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Igel

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16. Because we so disliked all the other alternatives that we disposed of them.
Sun May 25, 2014, 03:57 PM
May 2014

You'd think that means we like the alternative that's left, since we chose it in everything but name, but few bothered to think that far into the future.

It's what happens when you legislate by trials. Nobody seriously goes to court to improve things for everybody; it's a convenient fiction to cover the fact that those who litigate go to court to improve things primarily for themselves.

So family members could have somebody committed. All well and good, there were supposed safeguards in place to prevent abuse but bribes and such could bypass the safeguards. So we disposed of them.

Doctors could do the same. But they often were bribed or acted out of self-interest. They often made bad decisions that were later all but irreversible. So we disposed of that "intake system."

We like the idea of a mentally ill person committing themselves. "Hi, doc, I think I'm mentally ill. Please lock me up, declare me incompetent and strip me of many of my civil rights, and drug me against my will if I change my mind. Evaluate me from time to time and discharge me, taking a reduction in your income, should I be of sound mind again." Only a crazy person would do that. Fortunately, most have too much sanity.

That leaves police.

Community groups might work, but just like with an HOA, they're probably better in theory than in practice.

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Ronnie Raygun shut down the mental health hospitals treestar May 2014 #1
The problem wasn't shutting down the hospitals phil89 May 2014 #5
I heard an interview on NPR of a woman who helped shut down the hospitals. Throd May 2014 #8
Assertive Community Treatment teams phil89 May 2014 #13
We've repalced virtual prisons (mental asylums) with actual prisons! hedgehog May 2014 #17
Experienced cops might be able to sense if someone is homicidal bluestateguy May 2014 #2
How often does the average officer encounter someone who is homicidal? hedgehog May 2014 #18
that is the system KT2000 May 2014 #3
It's more expensive than actual treatment, and of course it makes things worse. LeftyMom May 2014 #4
this troubles me, too.... mike_c May 2014 #6
It is a great question with substantial weight to it. Ilsa May 2014 #7
They do. upaloopa May 2014 #11
I'm glad your community has them. Not all of them do. Ilsa May 2014 #14
A cop in Milwaukee just killed a mentally ill man a couple weeks ago. postulater May 2014 #9
This us bull shit. Police are trained they can upaloopa May 2014 #10
It's not that cut and dried. Vinca May 2014 #15
Unfortunately, many hospitals are not prepared to handle someone in a mental health crisis. hedgehog May 2014 #19
Teachers are expected to recognize special children so that they can be referred for help. It is jwirr May 2014 #12
Because we so disliked all the other alternatives that we disposed of them. Igel May 2014 #16
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