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1. Could it be that they think they're "nice guys," but are really assholes?

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Sun May 25, 2014, 07:48 PM

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The myth of the 'nice guy' and Elliot Rodger. [View all] Danger Mouse May 2014 OP

Could it be that they think they're "nice guys," but are really assholes? Louisiana1976 May 2014 #1

that's part of it. it's more than that, though. Danger Mouse May 2014 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #102

being an asshole isn't necessarily a game-killer for us gals Skittles May 2014 #6

So you're sayin I have a chance?... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #25

I'VE HAD IT WITH MEN Skittles May 2014 #26

EGREGIOUS cherokeeprogressive May 2014 #31

I WILL KICK ARMCHAIR ARMY ASS Skittles May 2014 #33

And that's why I ain't joinin' 'em. Instigate... sure. Stand with them? Nope. n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2014 #34

Skittles versus three Armchair Army members? awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #65

I'VE HAD IT WITH WOMEN IronLionZion May 2014 #42

wow NMDemDist2 May 2014 #2

Nice summation from a man that "gets it"... hlthe2b May 2014 #3

Yes, that attitude shows it up treestar May 2014 #5

There is a secret to get women in bed. Half-Century Man May 2014 #11

i really do, always, enjoy your posts. nt seabeyond May 2014 #29

"Each woman is an individual. There's no formula." nomorenomore08 May 2014 #57

I think there is an additional factor for some of them. spooky3 May 2014 #7

As cliche Jamaal510 May 2014 #8

Nice guys finish last Egnever May 2014 #9

ah. lookie. see. more of the story. seabeyond May 2014 #30

cool a stalker Egnever May 2014 #36

right. a thread moments ago. you immediately derailing and dismissing. me discussing. seabeyond May 2014 #38

I saw that too. FreedRadical May 2014 #50

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #105

Being "nice" doesn't mean being a doormat, necessarily. It's not so black and white. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #58

meh--being a nice guy works out fine, in my experience. Of course, fishwax May 2014 #69

Pretty much. Sadly a lot of guys don't get that... Danger Mouse May 2014 #10

Thanks Danger Mouse tea and oranges May 2014 #12

Everything you say is true JonLP24 May 2014 #13

Yep, I've been there too. VWolf May 2014 #14

Its all bullshit. It was never about women. 951-Riverside May 2014 #15

I think being a "monster" was the whole point....he was a very sick person....a schizophrenic VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #37

+1000 He would have found another convenient grievance for his murderous rage Tom Ripley May 2014 #40

but women are such a convenient target for so many of them. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #46

That is true Tom Ripley May 2014 #47

thanks for reading me BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #112

nonsense GirlinContempt May 2014 #51

you believe that blaming women MAKES HIM APPEAR LESS BAD OR MORE SYMPATHETIC seabeyond May 2014 #52

Well, it is appropriate that you are addressing your heavily-capped astonishment at that poster... Tom Ripley May 2014 #75

i think this was well said. regardless of what you said or not. i do not know that i really paid seabeyond May 2014 #79

Except for the part where I never said... Tom Ripley May 2014 #82

I may have replied GirlinContempt May 2014 #119

No, I don't think that blaming women, Satan, the Jews, the government, the Illuminati, God... Tom Ripley May 2014 #74

Exactly. We don't dismiss the motive when... Danger Mouse May 2014 #96

Maybe you're right. Chemisse May 2014 #93

Another problem with the "Nice Guy" meme Half-Century Man May 2014 #16

Women often go for the "bad boy" types when they' re younger. truedelphi May 2014 #78

not really. that goes along the lines of, .... all women are liars. no more true than seabeyond May 2014 #81

As a supporter of equal rights for women, I don't expect anything from women..... Darkhawk32 May 2014 #17

Anyone.... sendero May 2014 #20

Where did I say that? Thanks for proving my point. n/t Darkhawk32 May 2014 #48

That's a real shame OKNancy May 2014 #23

What's the shame about it? You equate not placing the opposite sex on a pedestal and Darkhawk32 May 2014 #49

The hostility is unnecessary though, in context. Seems over the top. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #61

The hostility is only your perception and your expectation of unwarranted and unearned praise. Darkhawk32 May 2014 #64

Fair enough. Honestly, I'm just scratching my head as to why you seem so angry. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #66

Because vitriol worse than I have ever put forth is being directed on men on DU because of this.... Darkhawk32 May 2014 #68

To be honest, I think the biggest problem here is you taking certain posts so personally. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #73

At least reported inter-gender violence.... Darkhawk32 May 2014 #76

Let me explain... Darkhawk32 May 2014 #77

And that is very wrong, and should not be tolerated. I'm sorry you had to deal with that. Honestly. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #80

Oh for sure. The numbers are skewed against women, no denying that, but the amount of violence Darkhawk32 May 2014 #83

I agree that we all play into these "roles," even unwittingly. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #84

I have agreements and disagreements on both sides of gender issues. Darkhawk32 May 2014 #85

No disagreement from me. Violence is an enormous human problem, even more so when nomorenomore08 May 2014 #86

I've always considered myself to be a "nice guy" but never tried to push myself Darkhawk32 May 2014 #87

I've been there too, though thankfully none of the young women (to my knowlege) were physically nomorenomore08 May 2014 #88

But, in seems in DU lately, just having that frustration makes you a misogynist. Sad. n/t Darkhawk32 May 2014 #89

I wouldn't say it's "having" it so much as what you do with it. Or how you express it. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #90

From what I've read, even "having" it got you into trouble. But hopefully, this will pass. Darkhawk32 May 2014 #91

Obviously the woman you knew had some serious issues. raccoon May 2014 #107

actually I was sort of agreeing with you OKNancy May 2014 #94

My apologies. Darkhawk32 May 2014 #109

Nailed it. Now you are a Dangerous Mouse. Thanks. n/t freshwest May 2014 #18

I always preferred nice guys. Never was attracted to overly aggressive guys OKNancy May 2014 #19

A woman with high self-esteem is going to be attracted to nice guys, not jerks n/t Yavin4 May 2014 #100

TATA YOUNG yuiyoshida May 2014 #21

YOU... are da man, of the moment. this is an excellent post. spelled out so well. seabeyond May 2014 #22

I have a serious problem with this OP Shankapotomus May 2014 #24

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying 'jerks' are in the right either. Danger Mouse May 2014 #27

I think it would help Shankapotomus May 2014 #39

false GirlinContempt May 2014 #56

Yes Shankapotomus May 2014 #67

wow GirlinContempt May 2014 #70

Yes, I know Shankapotomus May 2014 #72

This is true treestar May 2014 #32

Honesty Sweet Freedom May 2014 #43

You make a very good point Shankapotomus May 2014 #45

Do what works. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #108

Whenever someone calls themself a nice or good person wheniwasincongress May 2014 #28

He was just 1NiceShark May 2014 #35

we aren't making it complex GirlinContempt May 2014 #59

wtf does Jody Arias have to do with this?! GirlinContempt May 2014 #62

She was just a crazy 1NiceShark May 2014 #106

actually no GirlinContempt May 2014 #118

Real decent human beings don't need to "act" IronLionZion May 2014 #41

that is one hell of a good editorial. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #44

I don't know that anyone believed Elliot Rodger to be a nice guy, except himself. LisaL May 2014 #53

This deserves a kick ismnotwasm May 2014 #54

As a gay guy... DemocraticWing May 2014 #55

Nice! ismnotwasm May 2014 #60

That's a great way to make someone see how ridiculous the "friend zone is a personal insult" Squinch May 2014 #103

Being (genuinely) nice is all well and good, but you have to be interesting too. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #63

Be the best person that you can be. If that's not good enough for some people, so what. Yavin4 May 2014 #97

I think you have the right idea. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #117

Too many "nice" guys think... backscatter712 May 2014 #71

The real prize isn't sex. It's making a true friend. mainer May 2014 #92

This is excellent - should be required reading. K&R nt TBF May 2014 #95

Cripes. 99Forever May 2014 #98

Care to elaborate? Danger Mouse May 2014 #111

Nope. 99Forever May 2014 #115

It's not about being a "nice" guy. It's about being the best that you can be and being happy Yavin4 May 2014 #99

Great OP ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #101

I write it because I know it. Because I lived it. Danger Mouse May 2014 #114

Interesting thread. Laelth May 2014 #104

BecIf your being nice to a woman is contingent on her having sex with you (but viewing her as dirt MillennialDem May 2014 #110

that guy is missing his fedora and more neckbeard. Danger Mouse May 2014 #116

K&R demmiblue May 2014 #113

Interestingly, women are never "friend-zoned"; they are usually rejected outright. alarimer May 2014 #120