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In reply to the discussion: Elliot Rodger's California shooting spree: further proof that misogyny kills [View all]PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)85. His 140 page manifesto was a good glimpse into his views on women and life.
Here's a snip:
The ultimate evil behind sexuality is the human female. They are the main instigators of sex. They control which men get it and which men dont. Women are flawed creatures, and my mistreatment at their hands has made me realize this sad truth. There is something very twisted and wrong with the way their brains are wired. They think like beasts, and in truth, they are beasts. Women are incapable of having morals or thinking rationally. They are completely controlled by their depraved emotions and vile sexual impulses. Because of this, the men who do get to experience the pleasures of sex and the privilege of breeding are the men who women are sexually attracted to the stupid, degenerate, obnoxious men. I have observed this all my life. The most beautiful of women choose to mate with the most brutal of men, instead of magnificent gentlemen like myself.
Women should not have the right to choose who to mate and breed with. That decision should be made for them by rational men of intelligence. If women continue to have rights, they will only hinder the advancement of the human race by breeding with degenerate men and creating stupid, degenerate offspring. This will cause humanity to become even more depraved with each generation. Women have more power in human society than they deserve, all because of sex. There is no creature more evil and depraved than the human female.
Women are like a plague. They dont deserve to have any rights. Their wickedness must be contained in order prevent future generations from falling to degeneracy. Women are vicious, evil, barbaric animals, and they need to be treated as such.
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The first strike against women will be to quarantine all of them in concentration camps. At these camps, the vast majority of the female population will be deliberately starved to death. That would be an efficient and fitting way to kill them all off. I would take great pleasure and satisfaction in condemning every single woman on earth to starve to death. I would have an enormous tower built just for myself, where I can oversee the entire concentration camp and gleefully watch them all die. If I cant have them, no one will, Id imagine thinking to myself as I oversee this. Women represent everything that is unfair with this world, and in order to make the world a fair place, they must all be eradicated.
A few women would be spared, however, for the sake of reproduction. These women would be kept and bred in secret labs. There, they will be artificially inseminated with sperm samples in order to produce offspring. Their depraved nature will slowly be bred out of them in time.
Future generations of men would be oblivious to these remaining womens existence, and that is for the best. If a man grows up without knowing of the existence of women, there will be no desire for sex. Sexuality will completely cease to exist. Love will cease to exist. There will no longer be any imprint of such concepts in the human psyche. It is the only way to purify the world.
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Elliot Rodger's California shooting spree: further proof that misogyny kills [View all]
XemaSab
May 2014
OP
Why wouldn't you take them seriously? Taking them seriously doesn't mean they're true...
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#17
You don't have to be delusional or psychotic to have a mental illness, FYI.
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#28
So you admit that autism can cause mental health issues. That is what I'm saying as well.
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#38
I'm autistic. I probably have somewhat more insight into this than you do.
Spider Jerusalem
May 2014
#41
I concede to your understanding of ASD. But I know a bit about risperidone...
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#43
I don't think this is about 'ignorance', but the definitions that various professionals use
muriel_volestrangler
May 2014
#133
But, as we see, the NIH does define developmental disorders as illnesses
muriel_volestrangler
May 2014
#135
He was also prescribed risperidone (an antipsychotic) which he refused to take, apparently.
Spider Jerusalem
May 2014
#118
ASD did not make him do this. I hope you will educate yourself about ASD because what you are
Squinch
May 2014
#37
That statement doesn't make any sense. You need to educate yourself about ASD before you
Squinch
May 2014
#122
His AS disorder was cause of his lack of dating success & that turned into misogyny.
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2014
#44
You wrote "Ever heard of Autism Spectrum Disorder? ... It's a mental illness." Wrong.
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2014
#116
Obviously the guy had severe psychological problems (and I don't mean autism).
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#55
I wouldn't be so dismissive of this stuff myself. A small number of crazies can do a lot of damage.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#131
wow. my son did not know he was mentally ill. he figured he simply had a challenge in
seabeyond
May 2014
#78
??? use said austism was a mental illness. i said son and i never saw him as
seabeyond
May 2014
#121
Misogyny didn't force this guy kill a bunch of people. But it certainly aided the process.
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#10
Precisely. It provided a focus for his delusions, in an ultimately tragic manner. n/t
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#56
Well, except, not really. The two issues are interrelated. He didn't just pick woman-hating.
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#63
"This whole thing has very little to do with misogyny." - One of the dumbest claims so far on this.
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#66
It appears that he suffered from splitting. He replaced the real image of himself and others...
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#50
Did she have an extensive history of posting about how children belong in concentration camps
LeftyMom
May 2014
#7
and there is The Difference. and Yes there needs to be some conversation about it all.
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#21
His rants indicated he hated all of humanity. That would qualify as misanthropy.
PoliticAverse
May 2014
#32
No, jealousy. The males were killed because they had more success w women.
Bernardo de La Paz
May 2014
#46
Seems like a perfect storm. As much as I really, really don't want to validate his "grievances" in
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#59
Misogyny is the norm, and not an outlier. Like I said, you haven't thought this through very well.
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#84
Myself also...unrealistic expectations on his part and not a means to cope.
Historic NY
May 2014
#130
I wasn't aware I posted it was NEWS TO ME there are men who hate women.
cherokeeprogressive
May 2014
#77
He was stopped trying to get into a sorority, where he was on his way to kill "hot blond sluts" who
LeftyMom
May 2014
#74
So your argument was that he wasn't a misogynist because he was a piss poor criminal?
LeftyMom
May 2014
#83
"Personally I hope he's burning in hell already." - How can you be so off the cuff with sadism?
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#97
He did get out of his car and pounded on the door of the sorority house. It was his first stop,
seaglass
May 2014
#100
I think this is a little off track. Yes, his videos were misogynistic because he's...well...
ecstatic
May 2014
#79
Yes, but many more were going to be women. He couldn't get into the sorority house he'd planned to.
PeaceNikki
May 2014
#87
Yeah, but that's probably just because he hated drinks for being so popular with women.
Gravitycollapse
May 2014
#95
I wish I could be even the SLIGHTEST BIT surprised by the idiotic arguments here.
redqueen
May 2014
#128
When I was reading that I was thinking about the horror those people would feel if/when they
seaglass
May 2014
#101
good luck; DU is willfully ignorant when it comes to misogyny. as far as DU is concerned,
TheFrenchRazor
May 2014
#119