General Discussion

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)

91. Can you be more patronizing?

Reply to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #90)

Mon May 26, 2014, 12:16 AM

May 2014

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

138 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Elliot Rodger's California shooting spree: further proof that misogyny kills [View all] XemaSab May 2014 OP

This should be a fun thread. gollygee May 2014 #1

Mysogeny has nothing to do with it Gman May 2014 #2

Did you hear his misogynist rants? gollygee May 2014 #3

Would you have preferred a rant about Satan? Gman May 2014 #12

ASD doesn't = "criminally insane" gollygee May 2014 #13

Then I guess it was Satan that made him do it. Gman May 2014 #14

Have you ever met anyone with an autism spectrum disorder? gollygee May 2014 #20

Yes, I had a student in my class Gman May 2014 #108

Why wouldn't you take them seriously? Taking them seriously doesn't mean they're true... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #17

+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #52

really?? PeaceNikki May 2014 #4

Yes really. Ever heard of Autism Spectrum Disorder? Gman May 2014 #9

I am not mentally ill Shivering Jemmy May 2014 #16

Help me out here. Is "norms" the new DU slur du jour? 11 Bravo May 2014 #33

"Norms?" 1000words May 2014 #42

It makes me more than two standard deviations Shivering Jemmy May 2014 #47

Misogyny gave him an enemy. It didn't make him mentally disturbed. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #18

Yep -- misogyny offered him validation theHandpuppet May 2014 #39

Autism is not a mental illness. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #19

You don't have to be delusional or psychotic to have a mental illness, FYI. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #28

There may be comorbid mental health issues. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #30

That depends on how you choose to use the term "comorbid." Gravitycollapse May 2014 #31

Existing independently. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #35

So you admit that autism can cause mental health issues. That is what I'm saying as well. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #38

I'm autistic. I probably have somewhat more insight into this than you do. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #41

I concede to your understanding of ASD. But I know a bit about risperidone... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #43

I don't think this is about 'ignorance', but the definitions that various professionals use muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #133

Yes, there's a fundamental difference. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #134

But, as we see, the NIH does define developmental disorders as illnesses muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #135

They are, actually. Or at least by a majority of professionals. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #136

FTR, the killer was neither delusional nor psychotic Nevernose May 2014 #111

That doesn't seem to be what this says: Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #113

The shooting rampage? Nevernose May 2014 #117

He was also prescribed risperidone (an antipsychotic) which he refused to take, apparently. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #118

actually mopinko May 2014 #123

MRA and PUA communities fed his misogyny. LeftyMom May 2014 #27

It is not a mental illness. bravenak May 2014 #36

It's a disorder not an illness. Gman May 2014 #114

She is still saying sorry about breaking her kindle last year. bravenak May 2014 #120

ASD did not make him do this. I hope you will educate yourself about ASD because what you are Squinch May 2014 #37

Schizophrenics are usually nonviolent too Gman May 2014 #110

That statement doesn't make any sense. You need to educate yourself about ASD before you Squinch May 2014 #122

His AS disorder was cause of his lack of dating success & that turned into misogyny. Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #44

You make my point well Gman May 2014 #106

Wrong. Autism Spectrum Disorder is not a mental illness. Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #112

I agree with you and I'm wrong? LOL! Gman May 2014 #115

You wrote "Ever heard of Autism Spectrum Disorder? ... It's a mental illness." Wrong. Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #116

Obviously the guy had severe psychological problems (and I don't mean autism). nomorenomore08 May 2014 #55

Another whatever Gman May 2014 #105

I wouldn't be so dismissive of this stuff myself. A small number of crazies can do a lot of damage. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #131

Autism spectrum is not a mental illness. Chemisse May 2014 #60

oh bite me and quit derailing the most compelling fact here- - BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #70

. Squinch May 2014 #99

Whatever Gman May 2014 #104

flying pigs BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #107

ibid Gman May 2014 #109

wow. my son did not know he was mentally ill. he figured he simply had a challenge in seabeyond May 2014 #78

That's called a false equivalent. Gman May 2014 #103

??? use said austism was a mental illness. i said son and i never saw him as seabeyond May 2014 #121

He would have been much happier in the medieval era treestar May 2014 #25

Does anyone else see this post as really tiny? AngryAmish May 2014 #48

here's an expanded c&p PeaceNikki May 2014 #51

yikes AngryAmish May 2014 #98

Misogyny didn't force this guy kill a bunch of people. But it certainly aided the process. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #10

Precisely. It provided a focus for his delusions, in an ultimately tragic manner. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #56

This is just what the guy focused on. Chemisse May 2014 #61

Well, except, not really. The two issues are interrelated. He didn't just pick woman-hating. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #63

Oh please . . . Chemisse May 2014 #65

"This whole thing has very little to do with misogyny." - One of the dumbest claims so far on this. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #66

Hitler was a madman XemaSab May 2014 #22

+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #57

perfect analogy. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #67

When that woman stabbed her three children to death, recently ... 1000words May 2014 #5

Had she been on online forums about how horrible kids were? gollygee May 2014 #6

Not to my knowledge ... 1000words May 2014 #8

So you want to dismiss this conversation gollygee May 2014 #11

Just a reminder where some are coming from, is all. 1000words May 2014 #24

sexual frustration. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #69

While you seem to have a firm grasp of the topic ... 1000words May 2014 #71

so? so effing what? it's his words and actions that matter here. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #75

I don't think he hated women sunnystarr May 2014 #45

It appears that he suffered from splitting. He replaced the real image of himself and others... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #50

. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #102

I agree with you catchnrelease May 2014 #53

I agree. Chemisse May 2014 #64

Did she have an extensive history of posting about how children belong in concentration camps LeftyMom May 2014 #7

and there is The Difference. and Yes there needs to be some conversation about it all. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #21

His apparent hated of women Abq_Sarah May 2014 #15

I am no fan of police but the truth is that until police teams malaise May 2014 #23

I'm sure that 99% of the work of the IV police XemaSab May 2014 #26

That's my point malaise May 2014 #29

His rants indicated he hated all of humanity. That would qualify as misanthropy. PoliticAverse May 2014 #32

No, jealousy. The males were killed because they had more success w women. Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #46

He seemed to have an unhealthy sense of entitlement, Jamastiene May 2014 #34

Tragedies like this have multiple causes. hunter May 2014 #40

Seems like a perfect storm. As much as I really, really don't want to validate his "grievances" in nomorenomore08 May 2014 #59

huge K & R Whisp May 2014 #49

Excellent thread. K&R Louisiana1976 May 2014 #54

By that logic the Unibomber indicates that anti-capitalism kills? Exultant Democracy May 2014 #58

Of course, anti-capitalism and misogyny are totally dissimilar. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #68

Only if you don't understand how logic works champ. Exultant Democracy May 2014 #80

Misogyny is the norm, and not an outlier. Like I said, you haven't thought this through very well. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #84

One has to wonder if he sought out a professional Historic NY May 2014 #62

I thought about that too shanti May 2014 #124

Myself also...unrealistic expectations on his part and not a means to cope. Historic NY May 2014 #130

Misogyny causes man to kill four males, two females... cherokeeprogressive May 2014 #72

What, the idea that there are people out there who hate women is new to you? XemaSab May 2014 #73

I wasn't aware I posted it was NEWS TO ME there are men who hate women. cherokeeprogressive May 2014 #77

He was stopped trying to get into a sorority, where he was on his way to kill "hot blond sluts" who LeftyMom May 2014 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author cherokeeprogressive May 2014 #76

So your argument was that he wasn't a misogynist because he was a piss poor criminal? LeftyMom May 2014 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author cherokeeprogressive May 2014 #90

Can you be more patronizing? XemaSab May 2014 #91

Like you're not? cherokeeprogressive May 2014 #92

You can feel fucking free to stop talking to me like a child, Scooter. LeftyMom May 2014 #94

Dialing it back, with a qualification... cherokeeprogressive May 2014 #96

"Personally I hope he's burning in hell already." - How can you be so off the cuff with sadism? Gravitycollapse May 2014 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author shanti May 2014 #126

He did get out of his car and pounded on the door of the sorority house. It was his first stop, seaglass May 2014 #100

My apology. I was not aware of that. I'm sorry. n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2014 #138

He did leave his car and attempt to get into a sorority house whopis01 May 2014 #125

I did not have that information at the time, and I apologize. n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2014 #137

I think this is a little off track. Yes, his videos were misogynistic because he's...well... ecstatic May 2014 #79

Thank you for telling me XemaSab May 2014 #81

lol. I'm against sexism, and I am a woman, btw. ecstatic May 2014 #82

His 140 page manifesto was a good glimpse into his views on women and life. PeaceNikki May 2014 #85

He hated women and men who could get women. LisaL May 2014 #86

Yes, but many more were going to be women. He couldn't get into the sorority house he'd planned to. PeaceNikki May 2014 #87

That's some seriously fucked up shit n/t Violet_Crumble May 2014 #88

yes. slightly misogynistic. PeaceNikki May 2014 #89

Yeah, just a tad... Violet_Crumble May 2014 #93

Yeah, but that's probably just because he hated drinks for being so popular with women. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #95

Oof! Gormy Cuss May 2014 #127

I wish I could be even the SLIGHTEST BIT surprised by the idiotic arguments here. redqueen May 2014 #128

When I was reading that I was thinking about the horror those people would feel if/when they seaglass May 2014 #101

He called many of his "enemies" out by their full names shanti May 2014 #129

Yes, and if my aunt had wheels she'd be a teacart. Demit May 2014 #132

good luck; DU is willfully ignorant when it comes to misogyny. as far as DU is concerned, TheFrenchRazor May 2014 #119