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malaise

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Sat Mar 31, 2012, 04:17 PM Mar 2012

Taxpayers paid over a million dollars for Cheney's heart transplant [View all]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2012/03/28/cheneys-million-dollar-heart-stirs-health-care-debate-who-lives-and-who-dies/
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A heart transplant is considered a serious, life-saving surgery. In the procedure, a person’s damaged or diseased heart is replaced with a healthy heart from a deceased organ donor. Most heart transplants are done on patients who have end-stage heart failure which means that patient’s health is so severe that all treatments have failed. In Cheney’s case, he had suffered five separate heart attacks (the first at age 37) and had remained alive for the past two years or so with the use of a heart valve pump called a Left Ventricular Assist Device (LVAD).

Fortunately for Cheney, the cost of his health care was covered by taxpayers. In addition to health insurance provided through the government for Cheney’s years of service, Cheney, like millions of other Americans was eligible for Medicare benefits when he turned 65. In most cases, if you are retired and have Medicare, as well as health plan coverage from a former employer, Medicare pays first. The group health plan coverage pays second (booklet downloads as a pdf). Either way, it’s tax dollars at work.

It’s ironic, of course, that Cheney received his new heart just as the debate about Obamacare was being argued in front of the Supreme Court. The costs of getting better and staying healthy are controversial. Patients are living longer. Medical advances – like Cheney’s new heart and my mom’s new heart valve – can add years to a person’s life. But is it worth it? And who should pay for it? And should there be a test to decide who gets treatment and who doesn’t (specters of the so-called death panels)? In other words:

Should taxpayers foot the bill whenever a patient is too old/too fat/has smoked for too long/(fill in the blank)?
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I'm OK with paying for old, fat, smokers. War criminals, not so much. Scuba Mar 2012 #1
I was going to fill in the blank with "committed war crimes". lastlib Mar 2012 #11
You're both correct malaise Mar 2012 #12
Exactly he should have died in prison marlakay Mar 2012 #19
At the end of a stout rope. hifiguy Apr 2012 #33
What Scuba said nt XanaDUer Mar 2012 #20
great response! robinlynne Mar 2012 #21
To the last question, yes. Life is precious regardless of age or lifestyle of the individual imo. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #2
Rememebr it's OK if you're a ReTHUG malaise Mar 2012 #13
Isn't that exactly the sort of shit the right accuses Obamacare of doing? TheWraith Mar 2012 #3
Given Cheney's age, one at the age of 70 generally is not a heart transplant candidate. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2012 #5
And any organ transplant for a "celebrity" or noted person is automatically audited... TheWraith Apr 2012 #32
Of course malaise Mar 2012 #14
That's okay Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2012 #4
He still thinks it's the good ole days. lpbk2713 Mar 2012 #6
Ok folks time to say it nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #7
This needs to be circulated widely. Cheneycare for all! freshwest Mar 2012 #15
Good one, do you mind if I use it? sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #16
Go for it nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #17
Ah, thank you Nadin. I like it! sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #18
Cheneycare is very good malaise Mar 2012 #22
No objection to paying for cheney's transplant, & i doubt taxpayers really paid a million. HiPointDem Mar 2012 #8
And while I am generally opposed to the death penalty, he deserves lethal injection for war crimes rfranklin Mar 2012 #9
His warcrimes are unrelated to his right to health care. The whole "why does so and so get health HiPointDem Apr 2012 #26
However, if properly punished under internation law, he would need no health care... rfranklin Apr 2012 #27
That's the point of this thread malaise Mar 2012 #10
Well said HiPoint, thank you Puzzledtraveller Apr 2012 #31
Yes it costs over a million. Friend of mine had one. It gave him another five years. 1620rock Mar 2012 #23
i don't find it ironic, i find it sickening.... spanone Mar 2012 #24
Taxpayers have been paying for shimonitanegi Mar 2012 #25
Too true malaise Apr 2012 #29
A bargain... Octafish Apr 2012 #28
This makes me angry. Quantess Apr 2012 #30
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