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In reply to the discussion: My family is not "shielding" a dangerous person and I will not tolerate those who imply otherwise [View all]Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)77. why is it one or the other? It's obviously both. There will always be mentally ill.
There will always be people with ill will and violent inclinations.
We can maybe create a better system for helping people who
are suffering from mental illness, and supporting their families,
and investing in more research, better facilities.
It will probably take a long time to change the system, and
the consciousness of the people as well.
In the meantime, making it MUCH MUCH HARDER for EVERYBODY
mentally ill or not to get a gun is a GOOD IDEA>
People who want guns enough should be willing to go through
their hoops. If they aren't, something is wrong. They fall into
the mentally ill with possible egomaniacal violent tendencies
category, and should not be allowed any guns at all except
cap pistols and bb guns.
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My family is not "shielding" a dangerous person and I will not tolerate those who imply otherwise [View all]
Bjorn Against
May 2014
OP
BULLSHIT. The fucking knife does not change anything. We own the gun culture in our society.
Jefferson23
May 2014
#18
I know from the responses to the OP there are clueless people here who have no idea what
Jefferson23
May 2014
#126
They are but that is not what this OP is about. I may be wrong but I have the impression
Jefferson23
May 2014
#135
I do not think the mental health issue should be the factor for gun sales. The treatment meds should
Sunlei
May 2014
#172
why is it one or the other? It's obviously both. There will always be mentally ill.
Voice for Peace
May 2014
#77
Why not make this about our violent culture? One does not have to use a specific weapon or have a
jwirr
May 2014
#55
Also taking the lead out of paint and gasoline. The graphs on that are really striking. n/t
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#144
somebody in another thread suggested the influence of Hunger Games characters on this boy
Voice for Peace
May 2014
#83
After reading your responses to others in your previous OP that you were locked out of...
prefunk
May 2014
#2
I will not be open to any POV which suggests my family may be shielding a dangerous person
Bjorn Against
May 2014
#5
it is what you have posted, to involuntarily commit people with mental illness if they fit a vague
uppityperson
May 2014
#69
Involuntary commitments are not easy. It must be proven, suspicions don't count.
freshwest
May 2014
#140
The post was targeting families like mine. I didn't feel attacked because the post was accurate in
blm
May 2014
#16
There *are* procedures for involuntary commitment, which his family could have done.
moriah
May 2014
#90
I can put him on ignore but the attack on my family will still be there for all to see.
Bjorn Against
May 2014
#15
It will be apparent to those who understand. Put him on ignore because you will not change his mind
uppityperson
May 2014
#70
I have a schizophrenic sister who HAS BEEN A DANGER to us and others. That post was accurate in
blm
May 2014
#14
When she was a danger to us, we figured we'd handle it - when it turned to children and strangers it
blm
May 2014
#87
Schizophrenia has its degrees. No one is saying everyone is the same. That was never said.
blm
May 2014
#88
If you delete your posts about my family I will delete my posts about you
Bjorn Against
May 2014
#22
Your observations are not valid, you had no reason to suggest my family is shielding my brother
Bjorn Against
May 2014
#29
I don't care if you use an "if", you have no business even suggesting my family might do that
Bjorn Against
May 2014
#53
Those who promote fear and hatred of the mentally ill make themselves look worse. n/t
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#103
You should reconsider your position, it is inaccurate to rely heavily on IF...
Jefferson23
May 2014
#153
lets get real here, by your standard nobody, anywhere can question anything for fear of offending
Lee-Lee
May 2014
#150
He didn't question YOUR family any more than he questioned MINE and his post described EXACTLY what
blm
May 2014
#89
It can be, but, it wasn't in this case. The poster was far more accurate than people
blm
May 2014
#155
Move on. Some people 'get' what they want to get and 'don't get' what they don't want to get.
blm
May 2014
#171
I said no such thing. I've clearly said NOT ALL. You are clearly refusing to comprehend even simple
blm
May 2014
#175
I agree with you. They have no right to say the things they've said about your brother. n/t
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#105
Yes I care about other people, including my brother who poses no threat to society.
Bjorn Against
May 2014
#27
Because I know damn well that some people wrongly view people like him as dangerous
Bjorn Against
May 2014
#42
And THIS is the place you think you can convince others that you are right?
cleanhippie
May 2014
#46
I may not be able to convince them, but that doesn't mean they should go unchallenged.
Bjorn Against
May 2014
#48
Because of the implication that mentally ill people *as a group* should be assumed dangerous.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#106
It is certainly about the posters family member, read the response they received.
Jefferson23
May 2014
#31
sorry but schizophrenia ups the potential for violence 15 gazillion percent.
alphafemale
May 2014
#28
If you truly believe that, you are saying all people with schizophrenia are violent and dangerous to
uppityperson
May 2014
#71
I know a lot of people out there who are schizophrenic and not only not dangerous but actually
DesertDiamond
May 2014
#54
Is your brother mentally unfit to own firearms? Can your brother legally buy firearms?
Taitertots
May 2014
#100
I should not have to treat my brother as a dangerous person when he is not dangerous
Bjorn Against
May 2014
#112
He is mentally unfit and you have not taken necessary steps to prevent firearms purchases
Taitertots
May 2014
#113
You don't know jack shit about my family so don't you dare tell me what we have not done
Bjorn Against
May 2014
#119
How do you determine who is "mentally unfit"? Pass a psych exam? By IQ? How do you know who
uppityperson
May 2014
#154
Exactly, those who advocate incarcaration would sweep up lots of innocent people
Bjorn Against
May 2014
#128
It's just gun humpers trying to deflect attention away from their precious toys
Crunchy Frog
May 2014
#132