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bravenak

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64. Why should i have to prove anything?? I never claimed to be a scientist.

Mon May 26, 2014, 05:48 PM

May 2014

I like information. I like Polly. I like when Polly gives out information. I read the monsanto propaganda and i do not trust them. I do not like the idea of large corporations owning patents on food or human dna for that matter. I do not like the idea of farmers commiting suicide.

Whats your deal dude? You seem kinda angry at me amd i just met you like right now and stuff.
My mom plants a huge garden every year and i want to know if she will need to save her seeds for certain plants in the future because we don't eat bullcrap in my house. This way i'll start saving what we need for next year, this year.

I also want to know when i am buying with my own damn money, genetically modified food. Monsanto doesn't seem to want me to know. That makes them a shady ass organization. Like the food mafia. La Comida nostra. I kill me. I am so funny.

Don't you think we should have the right to know whats up with our food?

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] HuckleB May 2014 OP

And this is important to you exactly why? hedda_foil May 2014 #1

Probably because the GMO issue is not as cut and dried as some make it out to be Major Nikon May 2014 #4

Watch this 2naSalit May 2014 #10

I'm not so easily convinced Major Nikon May 2014 #11

Hmmm 2naSalit May 2014 #31

There's plenty of reasons to hate on Monsanto without making them up Major Nikon May 2014 #125

Well 2naSalit May 2014 #157

People have been outsmarting nature for thousands of years Major Nikon May 2014 #159

Have to 2naSalit May 2014 #163

That's a bad propaganda video. It promotes nothing but myths. HuckleB May 2014 #21

Gary Null is a fucking idiot... SidDithers May 2014 #24

Didn't know that... 2naSalit May 2014 #32

No worries. And I apologize for jumping all over you... SidDithers May 2014 #33

Yikes 2naSalit May 2014 #35

Some of it is, and some of it isn't. LWolf May 2014 #37

Perhaps because people push her as a spokesperson. HuckleB May 2014 #14

As with many things, there are shades of gray in this discussion. NRaleighLiberal May 2014 #2

Reality is important. HuckleB May 2014 #15

Again, definitions. NRaleighLiberal May 2014 #22

Again, that works for a few small farmers. HuckleB May 2014 #45

Vandana Shiva is someone who knows damn well how multinational corporate agribiz is destroying scarletwoman May 2014 #3

As will I. polly7 May 2014 #12

Great Post! burrowowl May 2014 #48

Thank you Polly. bravenak May 2014 #59

How is it "great info?" HuckleB May 2014 #60

Why should i have to prove anything?? I never claimed to be a scientist. bravenak May 2014 #64

So you don't know when something is baseless propaganda? HuckleB May 2014 #65

No. bravenak May 2014 #73

And labeling GMOs won't tell you one valuable thing about the product. HuckleB May 2014 #75

It will tell me the thing i want to know. bravenak May 2014 #87

Believe it or not, you're not the center of the universe. HuckleB May 2014 #89

You are also not the center of the universe. bravenak May 2014 #90

Prove that I'm wrong. HuckleB May 2014 #91

No. bravenak May 2014 #101

Again, you have no reason to label. You just want to be the center of the universe. HuckleB May 2014 #103

Allergies to food. bravenak May 2014 #108

I'm sorry that happened to you. HuckleB May 2014 #110

Can you prove that cross breeding with food that i am allergic to wont cause a reaction? bravenak May 2014 #119

What is the point of a "genetically modified" label, alp227 May 2014 #92

The point is that i want to know. bravenak May 2014 #97

The reality is that you are safer with GMO than you would be otherwise in that regard Major Nikon May 2014 #131

The reality is that i want to know. bravenak May 2014 #136

So what if I want to know if the produce I buy has been fertilized by cow shit? Major Nikon May 2014 #139

You should be allowed to have access to the info. bravenak May 2014 #143

There's a difference between having access to the information and labeling Major Nikon May 2014 #144

If a company doesn't want to label the products. bravenak May 2014 #145

There is almost no commercially produced food that isn't genetically modified Major Nikon May 2014 #126

I need to know if they cross breed it with something i can't eat. bravenak May 2014 #128

How do you know this about any product, GMO or otherwise? Major Nikon May 2014 #137

I do not have the most common food allergies. bravenak May 2014 #142

The question remains: Why are you bringing up allergies? HuckleB May 2014 #147

Makes sense to me. bravenak May 2014 #148

How does that connect to GMOs? HuckleB May 2014 #152

We went in a circle. bravenak May 2014 #153

You evaded the questions. HuckleB May 2014 #154

You tag teamer. bravenak May 2014 #161

You did great, bravenak.. thank you! Cha May 2014 #156

He actually made me more skeptical than i had been before. bravenak May 2014 #158

Monsanto and their spawns are very afraid of "labels".. they also do not want to tell Cha May 2014 #162

Thats what i figured. bravenak May 2014 #164

They've given us no reason to "trust" them.. with their sleazy orwellian bullshit. nm Cha May 2014 #165

Amen. Nt. bravenak May 2014 #166

Just a FYI, bravenak.. "My Throat Is On Fire - RoundUp" Cha May 2014 #171

Thank you, Cha! bravenak May 2014 #172

Then prove her assertions. HuckleB May 2014 #16

And now for something completely different rocktivity May 2014 #5

So, instead of peer reviewed research, you offered a really bad video. HuckleB May 2014 #17

Children as propaganda 101 mathematic May 2014 #26

I know which potato I'd "go to" rocktivity May 2014 #36

gmo escapes Leme May 2014 #6

Dr. Shiva IS an eco warrior goddess. nt Hekate May 2014 #7

So, anti-science, dishonest individual equates to that? HuckleB May 2014 #18

I wonder how many who condemn Jenny Mccarthy alp227 May 2014 #93

Monsanto is the bestest n/t 951-Riverside May 2014 #8

Science also gave us Thalidomide, Fukushima, and Global Warming. Downwinder May 2014 #9

I like red herring, too! HuckleB May 2014 #19

And insulin, space travel and the internet...nt SidDithers May 2014 #25

No. Shitty corporate practices gave us those. NuclearDem May 2014 #28

Exactly. Aerows May 2014 #39

And corrected those mistakes. nt alp227 May 2014 #94

"True experts" PaulaFarrell May 2014 #13

2000 peer reviewed studies, all assessed by independent scientists. HuckleB May 2014 #20

Do YOU have a link to that study? n/t angstlessk May 2014 #23

This piece covers it. HuckleB May 2014 #53

Any links to long term studies of human consumption? MohRokTah May 2014 #30

Any links to studies of long term human consumption of hybrids created by other technologies? HuckleB May 2014 #46

I don't trust GMO food for one single reason. MohRokTah May 2014 #27

Hogwash. HuckleB May 2014 #62

GMO is NOT Hybrid tehnology. so YOU are spreading HOGWASH! MohRokTah May 2014 #67

Yes, it is. HuckleB May 2014 #88

You say there is potential harm, burden of proof is on you. alp227 May 2014 #98

You build the strawman to tear it down. MohRokTah May 2014 #100

It appears that you don't know what a strawman is, even though you sure build enough of them. HuckleB May 2014 #106

Oh, and you might tell your friend or your sock or whatever... MohRokTah May 2014 #111

Who is she? A physicist. TBF May 2014 #29

Unfortunately... HuckleB May 2014 #52

Pure, peer-reviewed, repeatable science is a wonderful thing. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #34

And your point? HuckleB May 2014 #58

My point is that I don't believe that all the science around GMOs is clean. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #63

2000 peer reviewed and post-publication criticized studies. HuckleB May 2014 #66

Here are my thoughts Aerows May 2014 #38

I'm not a fan of the corporations. HuckleB May 2014 #55

"do not appear to be any worse" Aerows May 2014 #95

So you think a single corporation controls the food supply? HuckleB May 2014 #96

GMO technology, in my opinion, is not the issue. Aerows May 2014 #99

But who has the market cornered? HuckleB May 2014 #102

So be it. Aerows May 2014 #105

So you can't answer my question. HuckleB May 2014 #109

No I answered you. Aerows May 2014 #113

Let consumers decide! Why do you hate informed consumers? closeupready May 2014 #40

Putting a label on GMOs offer no information of value whatsoever. HuckleB May 2014 #51

Oh bullshit. killbotfactory May 2014 #167

Informed of what? Informed of what? alp227 May 2014 #115

Dishonest of you, and very disappointing. closeupready May 2014 #122

What if just don't want to eat anything GMO? Can I have a choice? L0oniX May 2014 #41

You have a choice. HuckleB May 2014 #47

I'll give you a time machine. alp227 May 2014 #118

Good luck with your false equivalency. L0oniX May 2014 #121

What do you mean, false equivalency? alp227 May 2014 #124

Sure, you can eat organic or that which is labeled non-GMO Major Nikon May 2014 #149

The Republican War on the Feminine Continues - Sockpuppet style AceAcme May 2014 #42

And, as usual, you can't argue for your assertions. HuckleB May 2014 #54

Howdy Berlum! NuclearDem May 2014 #61

Now that does explain it! HuckleB May 2014 #77

*Smirk*...nt SidDithers May 2014 #133

If there is no issue with GMO's SomethingFishy May 2014 #43

There is no logical reason to label it. HuckleB May 2014 #49

Then why do Gov'ts in Europe TBF May 2014 #56

Politics. HuckleB May 2014 #57

Again with the false comparisons to hybrids MohRokTah May 2014 #68

You're the one spreading misinformation. HuckleB May 2014 #71

You are spreading even more BULLSHIT. MohRokTah May 2014 #76

So you don't understand genetics. HuckleB May 2014 #78

No, you don't understand agriculture. MohRokTah May 2014 #80

So all you can do is offer up the usual anti-GMO cliches. HuckleB May 2014 #81

So all you can offer are the standard pro-GMO lies? MohRokTah May 2014 #84

Prove that I've lied about anything regarding GMOs. HuckleB May 2014 #86

A paid industry shill would not be so earnest. U4ikLefty May 2014 #120

Some argue for the sake of arguing. MohRokTah May 2014 #129

It's new technology that is completely untested in the long term MohRokTah May 2014 #69

Oddly, you've never cared about other hybrid technologies. HuckleB May 2014 #72

GMO is NOT a hybrid btechnology. MohRokTah May 2014 #79

Now that is beyond the pale. HuckleB May 2014 #85

How exactly is it different? Major Nikon May 2014 #150

Simple MohRokTah May 2014 #155

Both your assertions are demonstratably false Major Nikon May 2014 #168

One other thing. MohRokTah May 2014 #160

If GMO foods are so beneficial why does Monsanto (and others) oppose labeling it GMO? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #44

Why do those who work so hard to demonize GMOs ask this question? HuckleB May 2014 #50

Why do those who oppose labeling have no confidence in the product? MohRokTah May 2014 #70

Try responding the actual content of my posts. HuckleB May 2014 #74

Try responding tot the actual content of my posts. MohRokTah May 2014 #82

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #83

You can get a GMO by cross breeding? immoderate May 2014 #135

It seems a valid question. Why does Monsanto oppose labeling their product? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #104

You're response completely ignores my response. HuckleB May 2014 #107

Why do those who work so hard to demonize GMOs ask this question? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #114

This might help you: NuclearDem May 2014 #112

I think Monsanto is more interested in profits than prophecy. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #116

Not surprised you missed the point entirely. NuclearDem May 2014 #127

Not really. Monsanto is trying to fulfill it's own prophecy about it's product being beneficial. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #132

Woosh. NuclearDem May 2014 #138

If Monsanto is afraid of people that will shun their products Aerows May 2014 #123

No argument from me that Monsanto is a shitbag of a company. NuclearDem May 2014 #130

Agree completely! n/t Aerows May 2014 #134

For the same reasons organic producers would oppose labeling their use of cow shit fertilizer Major Nikon May 2014 #151

My two cents. If GMO's are fine, then GMO companies shouldn't fight against labeling. Period. ancianita May 2014 #117

For me personally, the argument revolves around food control politics Aerows May 2014 #140

The whole strategy of nature being for sale seems to be what this is all about, yeah. ancianita May 2014 #146

By "conventional agriculture" they mean corporate agriculture. ozone_man May 2014 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger May 2014 #169

Thanks For the OP - You have shined the light of Truth on Corporate GMO Lies. Tommymac May 2014 #170