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In reply to the discussion: "What shall we do now?" (re. the UCSB shootings) [View all]Laelth
(32,017 posts)60. Added just to keep my thoughts on the same page.
Gun control is a losing issue for Democrats.
Gun control might prevent some tragedies (but very few, I would argue). At the same time, it will drive a lot of men (and the women who love them) into the waiting arms of the NRA and the GOP.
It's just not worth it in this political climate. The Democratic Party is already perceived as "feminine" (aligned with feminists and GLBT advocates) while the Republican Party is perceived as masculine (aligned with the masculinist NRA and patriarchal fundamentalist Christianity). If we want more men (and the women who love them) to vote for Democrats, we need to abandon gun control. It's a "boys and their toys" issue. Don't separate the two unless you are prepared to experience the backlash that will result.
My goal is to get a lot of people to stop voting against their best interests. Gun control (as a party platform plank) hurts Democrats in large swaths of the country. We need to get those people to vote for Democrats, and advocating gun control pushes those same people into the waiting arms of the Republican-aligned NRA.
-Laelth
Gun control might prevent some tragedies (but very few, I would argue). At the same time, it will drive a lot of men (and the women who love them) into the waiting arms of the NRA and the GOP.
It's just not worth it in this political climate. The Democratic Party is already perceived as "feminine" (aligned with feminists and GLBT advocates) while the Republican Party is perceived as masculine (aligned with the masculinist NRA and patriarchal fundamentalist Christianity). If we want more men (and the women who love them) to vote for Democrats, we need to abandon gun control. It's a "boys and their toys" issue. Don't separate the two unless you are prepared to experience the backlash that will result.
My goal is to get a lot of people to stop voting against their best interests. Gun control (as a party platform plank) hurts Democrats in large swaths of the country. We need to get those people to vote for Democrats, and advocating gun control pushes those same people into the waiting arms of the Republican-aligned NRA.
-Laelth
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You are trying to conflate war and the character's personal problems
muriel_volestrangler
May 2014
#34
If you taught rhetoric than I ask you to step back and look for a larger, overarching theme
KittyWampus
May 2014
#2
So the invention of bigger and better guns and war machines had nothing to do with it?
davidn3600
May 2014
#11
we have often talked about the backlash resulting from so much success of women over a small
seabeyond
May 2014
#15
We fight to amend the Second Amendment. The existence of guns prevents the very conversations
ancianita
May 2014
#45
that has nothing to do with love and desire. that has nothing to do with being fearful
seabeyond
May 2014
#56