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customerserviceguy

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53. We're all going to do that

Tue May 27, 2014, 11:43 AM

May 2014

We all know that Cruz-Paul-Santorum-Rubio-Perry-Christie-Bush, or anyone else that stands a snowball's chance in hell of getting the GOP nomination would be worse than the least capable Democratic candidate who ever got the nomination in Party history.

In two years, we will all find reasons to get out and vote for Hillary in the general election, I predict she will have the nomination mathematically wrapped up by this point in 2016. Whoever the last few surviving Republicons are, we will all have dozens of reasons to oppose them. What matters is how effectively we communicate those reasons to the mushy middle, the folks who have been paying so little attention, that they don't make up their minds until the weekend before an election.

We will need enthusiasm to do that.

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Gun control might not deter regular criminals, but it would these mass shooters [View all] yurbud May 2014 OP

No it would not. Have you researched these past mass shooters? Most got their gun legally. Or..... Logical May 2014 #1

that's what I said. yurbud May 2014 #12

so what laws would have stopped this? Duckhunter935 May 2014 #2

Like what they have in Australia treestar May 2014 #5

So we should only allow hunters to own firearms? ... spin May 2014 #6

Seems to work in Australia treestar May 2014 #7

Australia is not the United States. ... spin May 2014 #23

I think it's a goal for shoot for treestar May 2014 #29

I agree that we should focus on taking guns away from criminals. ... spin May 2014 #36

I dunno if they'd be enough to get a tyrannical government gone treestar May 2014 #59

I tend to agree with you on the issue of a tyrant taking over the United States. ... spin May 2014 #64

I know about bad backs and I have to say... CTyankee May 2014 #35

In my younger days I attended jujitsu classes but those days are long gone. ... spin May 2014 #37

well, I dunno...you could well wake up with a loaded gun to your head and some guy CTyankee May 2014 #38

A coach gun is a very short double barreled weapon that's extremely easy to load... spin May 2014 #39

well, you know that about your safe's contents but a burglar might not... CTyankee May 2014 #45

"I would move out of any neighborhood that is that menacing. But that's just me." Lonusca May 2014 #62

Yes, some people can't and I get that. I also get my white privilege. CTyankee May 2014 #63

I actually do plan to move to a more rural area in the future. ... spin May 2014 #65

I think your third paragraph is the most realistic one. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #51

I don't spend a lot of time worry about lightning but since I lived in the ... spin May 2014 #70

Well, I gotta say Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #74

I guess since I've lived in such neighborhoods for such a long time ... spin May 2014 #80

if you have your guns stored safely, they won't be available in that scenario. If you don't have yurbud May 2014 #14

Wrong on all counts. ... spin May 2014 #16

Florida is a pretty fucked up state. Besides moving to get away from the crime... yurbud May 2014 #30

Global warming will not flood my home in Florida in my lifetime. ... spin May 2014 #34

I'm glad to hear it. I didn't wish you ill. On the other hand, if you lived at a lower elevation.. yurbud May 2014 #40

Who knows, I might be living close to the Gulf of Mexico ... spin May 2014 #42

Step One: Amend the US Constitition NickB79 May 2014 #43

Not if we get a progressive Dem president in the future who will appoint CTyankee May 2014 #46

The SCOTUS doesn't amend the US Constitution, the states do NickB79 May 2014 #56

Repealing the 2nd amendment and banning the sale of pistols and repeating rifles mwrguy May 2014 #8

go for it Duckhunter935 May 2014 #9

Preventing 50% of the deaths makes it worth it mwrguy May 2014 #10

he would have just used a bomb or arson Duckhunter935 May 2014 #11

I worry more about crazies turning to their cars as WMD's if they can't get guns... EX500rider May 2014 #71

According to the FBI, in 2011, 67.7% of murders were done with guns, 13.3% with knives yurbud May 2014 #13

so why the big push for Duckhunter935 May 2014 #15

assault weapon crimes are like nuclear accidents--they are rare but when they do happen... yurbud May 2014 #31

they do not as full auto rifles Duckhunter935 May 2014 #33

Where the fuck did you find that stat? nt Logical May 2014 #19

the original OP was talking about the latest Duckhunter935 May 2014 #20

You know a knife is less lethal. Everyone does. So why argue the point? nt Logical May 2014 #24

they seemed to be pretty Duckhunter935 May 2014 #26

ok, you are one gun nut who will not admit guns are more lethal than knifes. Good to know. nt Logical May 2014 #28

Bringing a knife to a gunfight Politicalboi May 2014 #27

Name 10 democrats in congress who would propose this! nt Logical May 2014 #18

Name 5 Duckhunter935 May 2014 #21

We need another Carolyn McCarthy mwrguy May 2014 #22

I think he's asking for plausible solutions LittleBlue May 2014 #25

You can disagree with what he said without insulting DU yurbud May 2014 #32

That simple, eh? NickB79 May 2014 #44

(Insert NRA talking point) onehandle May 2014 #3

and where would I find those? Duckhunter935 May 2014 #4

The NRA is full of idiots and are in business to sell guns. But nothing will stop mass shootings. nt Logical May 2014 #17

Want to play Gun Nut Bingo? geomon666 May 2014 #85

Here's what I think should be done. hollowdweller May 2014 #41

So, in other words VScott May 2014 #48

Gun control is a losing issue for Democrats. Laelth May 2014 #47

Right now, we might have to stick with concentrating on getting a Progressive Dem President in 2016. CTyankee May 2014 #49

I will vote for whomever the Democratic Party nominates. Laelth May 2014 #50

We're all going to do that customerserviceguy May 2014 #53

I have to disagree with you, in part. Laelth May 2014 #55

but my point was we had a party platform that included a pro-gun position on the 2ndA, but CTyankee May 2014 #57

No doubt. Laelth May 2014 #58

Most sensible, human-helping policies are. But trot out "Guns, Guts, and Glory," and you've got a WinkyDink May 2014 #54

I think most Americans agree with the liberal position on most issues. Laelth May 2014 #68

We shall see in November. WinkyDink May 2014 #73

I doubt that the Aurora, Colorado shooter customerserviceguy May 2014 #52

For that guy, yes. Some seem to have a deficit of social skills and street smarts that would allow yurbud May 2014 #66

Perhaps customerserviceguy May 2014 #89

Getting a permit to own a gun should be as hard as getting a top secret security clearance. stevenleser May 2014 #60

a lot of people would balk at that last bit, but if they think they're going to use the gun to fight yurbud May 2014 #67

As soon as equally severe restrictions are placed on all journalists, including you. MicaelS May 2014 #69

Right because owning a device that can shoot small pieces of metal through the air at lethal speeds stevenleser May 2014 #72

If we ever were foolish enough to repeal the Second Amendment... LAGC May 2014 #75

I disagree. Eventually the 2nd amendment will be seen for the anachronism it is. stevenleser May 2014 #78

Maybe in a hundred years. LAGC May 2014 #82

That's what they said about the 13th amendment. My guess is less than 20 yrs. nt stevenleser May 2014 #86

So we can make the process expesnive so poor people can not own a gun Travis_0004 May 2014 #79

I have no idea how you manage to get there. But no, you are wrong. nt stevenleser May 2014 #88

You certainly have an active imagination hack89 May 2014 #81

If I do, this isn't evidence of it. Many people are looking for solutions to mass shootings. stevenleser May 2014 #87

I support all proposed gun control legistlation with only two exceptions hack89 May 2014 #90

So CA doesn't have gun control? beevul May 2014 #61

Thanks for your sanity, Yurbud. Needless to say, the breathless fetishizers have rushed into the villager May 2014 #76

or as the Onion said, "�No Way To Prevent This,� Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens" yurbud May 2014 #83

That Onion "parody" was practically "verbatim DU gun apologist post" language... villager May 2014 #84

this is what stymies me as a writer: satire is impossible when reality is strains credulity yurbud May 2014 #91

It might take decades for restrictions to work, but delaying isn't working. Hoyt May 2014 #77

It would also deter regular criminals. Don't buy the NRA talking points. DanTex May 2014 #92

Post hoc ergo propter hoc. LAGC May 2014 #93

Gun control would deter regular criminals as well. There is an "iron pipeline" through which straw Erose999 May 2014 #94