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Crunchy Frog

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48. Sadly, I think that's true.

Tue May 27, 2014, 02:07 PM

May 2014

Periodic massacres, and a steady drip of daily shootings are an apparently incurable and unstoppable aspect of our society, and we're all just getting used to the reality of having to live with the situation.

That doesn't mean that I have to like it.

People in places like Sudan and Somalia have gotten used to far worse. I suppose we can be thankful that things haven't reached that level yet in this country.

It's certainly possible to virtually eliminate gun violence if the political will exists, as has been shown in many other countries, but the opposite political will exists in this country, and I've accepted that there's not a damn thing I can do about it.

As I said, though, I don't have to like it, and I don't have to like the people who are responsible for it, and I don't have to refrain from expressing my opinion on a political message board.

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There is no way to stop mass shootings in this country! [View all] Logical May 2014 OP

Exactly right customerserviceguy May 2014 #1

Gun control is a losing issue for Democrats. Laelth May 2014 #2

Sounds like gun control would be a winning policy, then muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #88

I'll have to think about that one for a bit. n/t Laelth May 2014 #97

Yep, short of repealing the 2nd and 4th Amendments, guns are here to stay. LAGC May 2014 #3

"Except maybe work on why people want to do mass shootings and stop that." redqueen May 2014 #4

that is just plain wrong dsc May 2014 #71

Then explain why it doesn't happen in Canada. redqueen May 2014 #72

because Canada doesn't let its people own arsenals dsc May 2014 #73

Well I would definitely agree with implementing their system here. redqueen May 2014 #75

Canada doesn't register all guns. NutmegYankee May 2014 #85

They don't have more guns per person either muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #90

Exactly, that's what I was trying to say in my post #79, but you RKP5637 May 2014 #81

Every human made problem has multiple human contrived solutions LanternWaste May 2014 #5

Well, I would love to hear one realistic idea. Before we try something that loses votes. Nt Logical May 2014 #6

I understand the sentiment-- we like to pretend that we're clever enough LanternWaste May 2014 #17

Clearly the best solution here is tougher background checks 951-Riverside May 2014 #7

The CA shooter passed "tougher" CA background checks, several times. N/T beevul May 2014 #40

Then we need more stringent and even more... thorough background checks and... 951-Riverside May 2014 #50

How about mandatory mental health evals before getting a drivers or gun licens-nt Anansi1171 May 2014 #91

I seem to recall the NSA was spying on all emails treestar May 2014 #84

Finally.. H. Cromwell May 2014 #8

And empower the NRA more. nt Logical May 2014 #9

Maybe all you folks who are so sanguine about mass shootings (no pun intended) stranger81 May 2014 #10

Typical no solution emotional pits. Adding nothing to the discussion! nt Logical May 2014 #12

Right. Dead kids add nothing to the discussion. Let's keep talking about more gunz. stranger81 May 2014 #13

Your solution to stopping it? A realistic one? nt Logical May 2014 #15

Regulate the g-d guns, like every other first-world country does. stranger81 May 2014 #28

A mass murderer would still mass murder in your plan. nt Logical May 2014 #29

Maybe, maybe not. It obviously wouldn't stop everyone, but it would certainly make it harder. stranger81 May 2014 #32

Of course it does..... Logical May 2014 #39

I agree that there's no one-size-fits-all solution to completely eliminate the problem. stranger81 May 2014 #42

One other thing I should have added that I think is very important, stranger81 May 2014 #44

Great points.....I agree on the mental health aspect.... Logical May 2014 #45

Then please explain why we hear about so few mass murders in Australia, Japan, Britain, etc Hugabear May 2014 #76

We have to wait for evolution to solve this one, gun advocates are immature randys1 May 2014 #54

DAMN THOSE PEOPLE GETTING IN THE WAY OF THE BULLETS!!! MohRokTah May 2014 #11

Another worthless post that adds nothing to the duiscussion! nt Logical May 2014 #14

It was made in direct response to a worthless OP that adds nothing to the discussion. eom MohRokTah May 2014 #16

Really? What analysis do you disagree with? nt Logical May 2014 #18

Really? The complete lack of aalysis is what threw me off. eom MohRokTah May 2014 #19

What is your solution? Crickets? nt Logical May 2014 #21

Replace Scalia, Alito, Roberts, Thomas, or Kennedy. MohRokTah May 2014 #23

Ban guns? Please post a poll on this forum, see if the majority of dems..... Logical May 2014 #24

Who said anything about banning guns? MohRokTah May 2014 #25

That means you require gun registration, once again, even dems do not.... Logical May 2014 #27

It's the constitution MohRokTah May 2014 #34

That is your interpretation. nt Logical May 2014 #35

All I need is a bout one more Associate Justice who would be open to that interpretation MohRokTah May 2014 #38

I hope you are right. "Well regulated" has been debated forever. But remember.... Logical May 2014 #41

Ah, but most nuts will be easily weeded out. MohRokTah May 2014 #43

Even the Stevens and Breyer's dissenting opinions in Heller Calista241 May 2014 #70

The Democratic party platform says that the 2A protects an individual right to keep and bear arms hack89 May 2014 #51

My proposal is independent of the party MohRokTah May 2014 #53

No, it is not that easy hack89 May 2014 #55

Yes it is that easy. MohRokTah May 2014 #56

So why is Roe v Wade still the law of the land? hack89 May 2014 #57

Sandra Day O'Connor for the longest time. MohRokTah May 2014 #58

Ban teh GUNZ!!!!11!11 aikoaiko May 2014 #20

like your summary points, don't like your thread title. maggiesfarmer May 2014 #22

Maybe that was incorrect. maybe there is a long term solution, I see.... Logical May 2014 #26

that's very fair. You'll notice I didn't have one to offer ;) maggiesfarmer May 2014 #30

Long term is a good possibility. A million more guns sold every month.... Logical May 2014 #37

Gun sales have been on the decline recently MohRokTah May 2014 #52

My idea is to make gun ownership a anti social upaloopa May 2014 #31

THIS. [n/t] stranger81 May 2014 #33

I hope this open carry shit gets treated that way soon. nt Logical May 2014 #47

Better yet, why should predators demand that we allow them Skidmore May 2014 #49

This. Look at that sociopath Joe the Plumber treestar May 2014 #77

Yes there is! Make ammo costs 5000 dollars a bullet. Rex May 2014 #36

Unconstitutional. That is why it is good comedy and not good legal advice. nt hack89 May 2014 #59

I was joking, they need to be more like 12k a piece. Rex May 2014 #61

Back door attempts to ban the use of guns are unconstitutional. hack89 May 2014 #67

But that is not banning the use of guns, just making it hard to afford the bullets. Rex May 2014 #80

It is settled law hack89 May 2014 #82

Oh I see you are done here, nice way to fail and run away. Rex May 2014 #83

It is not like we don't have the identical conversation every four months hack89 May 2014 #86

If it was unconstitutional then guns and bullets would be tax free, felons could legally own them... 951-Riverside May 2014 #63

Taxes are legal. Poll taxes ie defacto bans are illegal hack89 May 2014 #66

Somehow I don't think allowing only the 1% to own guns is a very progressive idea. EX500rider May 2014 #68

When the people of this country avebury May 2014 #46

Sadly, I think that's true. Crunchy Frog May 2014 #48

Why should we be expected to "get used to it?" Why should we be expected to shut up and Skidmore May 2014 #65

I'm certainly not shutting up, and don't think anyone else should either. Crunchy Frog May 2014 #96

There are huge cultural barriers unique to America in our way... Orsino May 2014 #60

I just said the same thing to one of my friends.. butterfly77 May 2014 #62

Whether deliberately or accidental, I think you are confusing "politically viable" with "desirable". Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #64

Make it a mandatory 20 year sentence if caught with a gun Politicalboi May 2014 #69

Not without a SHITLOAD of bloodshed on the part of law enforcement. LAGC May 2014 #92

So you're saying... gcomeau May 2014 #94

Most of these "gun nuts" are harmless right now. LAGC May 2014 #95

Yeah.... you realize an analogous statement to that would be... gcomeau May 2014 #98

People can be persuaded to change their minds over time treestar May 2014 #74

Keep shooting innocent children while yelling "Heller" randys1 May 2014 #78

It's the culture more than the guns. Guns are a tool, but what makes them dangerous is RKP5637 May 2014 #79

God Bless America! The "CAN'T DO SHIT" nation. hunter May 2014 #87

Great reply, and your brilliant plan is what??? nt Logical May 2014 #101

Ahem... gcomeau May 2014 #89

Well then, that's it!!! longship May 2014 #93

�No Way To Prevent This,� Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens Orsino May 2014 #99

A sea change in the culture is needed which will produce.... steve2470 May 2014 #100