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In reply to the discussion: Why Is It So Hard For People to Get That Elliott Rodger Hated Women? [View all]Jamastiene
(38,206 posts)So far, the mentally ill angle has been purely speculation. Assuming he was mentally ill just puts stigma on people with mental illness. No one in an official position to give a definitive answer on what mental illness he might or might not have had has said IF he was mentally ill or not. I tend not to attribute these mass shooters with mental illness, because unless someone specifically says they had a specific mental illness, it just stigmatizes people with mental illness who are not nor would they ever be violent. I'm very much against speculating on any possible mental illness unless someone who knew his case says he definitely had one. I think he was just an asshole. That doesn't take mental illness.
The truth is, the guy was a self centered jerk who felt entitled to have whatever he wanted from women and when he did not get his way, he pitched a temper tantrum. His parents let him get by with his temper tantrums almost every time, by his own admission. He specifically mentions numerous times when he would pitch a temper tantrum and get by with it. There were times when he did not get by with it. He would make vacations to other countries a nightmare for everyone around especially if he was forced to go with his step mother on a trip. He got by with it. He was allowed to turn into an insolent, self aggrandizing all around jerk because of the fact that he used his temper tantrums to get his way and they let him do it. He felt entitled to whatever he wanted and saw service work as beneath him. He stayed in a state of constant outrage just because he saw couples walking around. He would go on walks and to restaurants and obsess with happy couples and pity himself because he did not have a girlfriend. He felt entitled and thought he was better than everyone else. It was probably a combination of these things plus a few others that turned him into what he became.
I would suggest everyone read his manifesto. He was a master manipulator from the time he was a small child. Losing his control over his situation when he hit puberty and could not make friends not have girlfriends and could not get a girlfriend (because he refused to be around girls or talk to girls especially after he saw them with other guys) was what sent him into his rages. He would rage when he could not get his way and was allowed to get by with it in most cases, but no one could MAKE women come to him and become his girlfriend and he would not be around women or talk to them very much. So, his own actions kept him from getting a girlfriend because he was an arrogant asshole and hated women so much that he would not interact with them except to jump out of his car and throw coffee or other drinks on them then jump back in and drive off, or trying to throw girls off a balcony because they did not adore him the way he thought they should. I'm pretty sure that is not how a guy should go about trying to get a girlfriend. I can't think of any woman who would like to be treated like that. The guy despised women because he could not control them and could not have them. Yet, he refused to be around them any more than he had to. The whole thing is a mind fuck if you really think about it. Yes, there were many factors, but his seething rage toward women was at the bottom of most of it.