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In reply to the discussion: Why Is It So Hard For People to Get That Elliott Rodger Hated Women? [View all]
Jamastiene
(38,206 posts)240. That is true. n/t
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Why Is It So Hard For People to Get That Elliott Rodger Hated Women? [View all]
PeaceNikki
May 2014
OP
The why is more likely related to paranoid schizophrenia, the first symptoms of which
pnwmom
May 2014
#154
and this is why i have monitored my oldest this last year. you are right on, with all those counts.
seabeyond
May 2014
#262
i was blessed (do not like tho use that word) lucky, .... htat son talks. and talks and talks and
seabeyond
May 2014
#265
He hated everybody because he was so fucking awesome and NOBODY saw that in him
snooper2
May 2014
#2
No, he was a malignant narcissist, first and foremost. He was definitely a misogynist, but I see
winter is coming
May 2014
#16
Let's keep a tally on the "crazed acts of violence based on gender" you're so concerned about....
bettyellen
May 2014
#61
well one crazy lady talked about killing the menz 40 years ago, and since then.....
bettyellen
May 2014
#97
I'm so concerned I've started dozens of threads on the subject just in the last few days
Major Nikon
May 2014
#78
you're so concerned about gender issues, you show up on every single thread to tell women
bettyellen
May 2014
#96
yes, there are about six constantly derailing- we know. we are quite familiar with all of you...
bettyellen
May 2014
#133
ah. and then that is what discussionist is for them. they can talk about the mean feminist that
seabeyond
May 2014
#204
way back when, when we were pulling out all kinds of feminists, from forever to recent,
seabeyond
May 2014
#219
the second. i believe. that was like three years ago. i need to put her back up in hof.
seabeyond
May 2014
#229
actually, i did not even read majors posts. i was answering cause i was reading you gals.
seabeyond
May 2014
#230
she was trying to get Andy Warhol interested in her writing and angry he wrote her off
bettyellen
May 2014
#245
If you want me to defend every piece of misogyny ever written you are barking up the wrong tree
Major Nikon
May 2014
#252
I haven't claimed that misogyny had no role in his actions. Obviously, it did.
winter is coming
May 2014
#175
I'm guessing "personality disorder" as opposed to a mental illness like schizophrenia.
winter is coming
May 2014
#197
Whatever mental illness he may have had, it does not make his hateful rhetoric meaningless.
PeaceNikki
May 2014
#166
It's no more silly for me than for anyone else to accuse him of just being evil.
pnwmom
May 2014
#174
I have seen it claimed elsewhere on DU that he did *not* suffer from auditory hallucinations.
winter is coming
May 2014
#182
No one here can claim they know he did NOT. It hasn't been proven that he did, either.
pnwmom
May 2014
#242
definition of misogyny. dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.
seabeyond
May 2014
#33
i always thought it ... hatred toward women. a lot of dictionaries have that definition.
seabeyond
May 2014
#47
That's it. He was however taught to hate. His susceptibility is at question. Was he mentally weak?
The Wielding Truth
May 2014
#247
Did he say everybody was the source of all unfairness and should be exterminated?
redqueen
May 2014
#43
True, he killed his roommates to get them out of the way so he could torture women.
Rex
May 2014
#26
I don't see anyone reasonably arguing that he wasn't misogynistic; it would take an extreme...
Shandris
May 2014
#23
I don't think it's that all women fear all men all the time. That *would* be over the top.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#71
We can split hairs all we want, but I don't see how one can reasonably deny we have a problem.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#65
We all have good and bad in us. And nearly all of us have at least the potential for good deeds -
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#190
he also made some weird accusation that I called him a "deviant" or something.
PeaceNikki
May 2014
#118
no. thru out the post he took it away from misogyny and excuse in every way.... and at no
seabeyond
May 2014
#50
yes. he clearly says, who has a problem admitting. and then shows us what a challenge it is for him
seabeyond
May 2014
#55
I see nothing indicating it's challenge for him to admit Rodgers hated women
MannyGoldstein
May 2014
#57
The disagreement is over whether misogynism played a part in these deaths, and many others....
bettyellen
May 2014
#152
this thread is about the refusal (of some) to put this in a cultural context, instead of pretending
bettyellen
May 2014
#178
Not at all, the psycho hated women. He hated them (and everyone else) so much...
Demo_Chris
May 2014
#195
He was in communication with and motivated by an organized misogynist movement.
LeftyMom
May 2014
#40
Racists are fuckups too. Nobody said he was part of a well-run movement full of smart people.
LeftyMom
May 2014
#241
it's fucking twisted- to even approach this subject with "concerns" about man hating....
bettyellen
May 2014
#169
Anything to exempt oneself from any responsibility to the world whatsoever, right? How libertarian.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#191
Half the derailers have parroted MRA, evo-psych bullshit again and agan- so they are now invested
bettyellen
May 2014
#193
And if they want to hang on to bizarre or stupid beliefs, then whatever, we can't stop them.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#196
well. there in lies the problems. until the shit is spouted off to some other pathetic young man
seabeyond
May 2014
#207
I have no illusions about being able, individually, to change anyone's mind.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#209
ha. that is kinda funny cause brave just said something that was a eye opener for me
seabeyond
May 2014
#215
so, you'd rather not talk about racial motivations of Nazis too? But its fine to discuss how you
bettyellen
May 2014
#121
point. ouch. see. lesson learned. not that i have said it, but... i have not connected those dots
seabeyond
May 2014
#211
they might have to acknowledge, there is indeed, a problem. and they fight hard to deny that
seabeyond
May 2014
#30
well. didnt you jsut put me and all women in our place. you da man. lookin' like all that.
seabeyond
May 2014
#223
Right, there were a few specific men he wanted to kill, but he wanted ALL women dead.
PeaceNikki
May 2014
#66
There were a very few specific males he wanted dead. But he wanted ALL women dead.
PeaceNikki
May 2014
#67
The fact we need to admit women are viewed as objects proves there's a problem
flashbang
May 2014
#73
he had the bizarre idea that every woman he saw was fucking the man standing next to her....
bettyellen
May 2014
#160
he did not go buy one cause he is a coward. he was afraid of sex. he was afraid of women.
seabeyond
May 2014
#258
he seemed to envy and want whatever he saw other people had or wanted -nothing seemed to be original
bettyellen
May 2014
#263
Yes, I get the impression that he really had no friends, male or female n/t
TexasBushwhacker
May 2014
#108
There were a very few specific males he wanted dead. But he wanted ALL women dead.
PeaceNikki
May 2014
#82
Whatever mental illness he may have had, it does not make his hateful rhetoric meaningless.
PeaceNikki
May 2014
#90
yet planned mainly to massacre women-who were lucky enough not to trust strange men and survived!
bettyellen
May 2014
#100
his plan was to mass murder a whole sorority of women. not interested in facts though, eh?
bettyellen
May 2014
#130
He said, "There is no creature more evil and depraved than the human female."
redqueen
May 2014
#249
same half dozen dudes here- plus a few too many thousand like minded women haters on the net.
bettyellen
May 2014
#135
the usual MRA suspects who throw an absolute hissy fit any time misogyny is discussed.
geek tragedy
May 2014
#138
And the trench coat mafia hated cool kids so what? Gun are the issue guns are what killed
Exultant Democracy
May 2014
#122
funny comment from one of the men who try to silence critiques of misogyny around here.
geek tragedy
May 2014
#132
Gravedancing is gravdancing and it is always revolting. Jerry Falwell would approve.
Exultant Democracy
May 2014
#164
calling out misogyny is revolting to people who don't want it discussed, ever, here.
geek tragedy
May 2014
#167
I would say any guy who dreamed of starting his own form of fascist government,
Jamastiene
May 2014
#136
I'd venture to guess most, if not all, misogynists are mentally ill. It's not normal.
PeaceNikki
May 2014
#146
I am strongly of the opinion that very few men proportional to society are misogynists.
PeaceNikki
May 2014
#157
cnn, msnbc, fox, local papers. read any comment section on the net and you hear massive amounts of
seabeyond
May 2014
#225
A lot to digest in all of his writings and videos, but no question misogyny was his defining
stevenleser
May 2014
#259