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150. Elliot Rodger didn't think so

Tue May 27, 2014, 11:49 PM

May 2014

According to his so-called manifesto, he wanted to eliminate sex...and the love that accompanies it. He stated that humanity would finally reach it's potential without it. But then he was completely nuts too....

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Do people really think sex is needed to live? [View all] boston bean May 2014 OP

Well unless I'm some kind of zombie, you are right. dawg May 2014 #1

It certainly makes life more pleasant. But it's not a requirement by any means. Katashi_itto May 2014 #26

To people who think it is, it is to them. Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #2

They can think it all they like. However, not having sex is not going to boston bean May 2014 #3

Maslow includes sex in the Hierarchy of Needs. Also ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #101

no. logic fails. even if they think they need to live, if they do not have, they will ... LIVE seabeyond May 2014 #4

That seems like an odd argument. el_bryanto May 2014 #11

This is what I meant Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #23

simply believing something does not make it true. uppityperson May 2014 #59

Facts and truths are not the same. Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #64

With a can of worms in the hand of each of those worms. PeaceNikki May 2014 #33

I think that's called 'legitimate murder'... Whisp May 2014 #5

Yeah, that's how some of these posts read. I can't imagine they are grasping boston bean May 2014 #6

It's a debate in psychology whether it's a "need" davidn3600 May 2014 #7

Maslow's hierarchy is always open to interpretation. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #32

I really think part of sex-ed needs to be jeff47 May 2014 #8

Boys all seem to figure it out without training, MineralMan May 2014 #14

;). nt seabeyond May 2014 #15

There's a difference between being able to do it jeff47 May 2014 #17

Ah, I see. MineralMan May 2014 #18

Practice makes perfect. n/t hughee99 May 2014 #25

Crap! dawg May 2014 #43

so fuggin' bustin' up. didnt know there was an issue like this. too too funny. nt seabeyond May 2014 #105

I figured out how to do it very well MattBaggins May 2014 #133

The teaching needed is to accept masturbation as a legitimate form of sexual expression. Gormy Cuss May 2014 #61

It's masturbation, by the way, not masterbation. MineralMan May 2014 #77

I know how to spell it, Teach. Gormy Cuss May 2014 #85

There's a long history of masturbation being considered MineralMan May 2014 #87

Spelling matters, sure. You could have simply used the correct spelling in your post Gormy Cuss May 2014 #90

Masturbation always puts 'u' in the middle of things. n/t whopis01 May 2014 #88

master bating is what really good trolls do. nt uppityperson May 2014 #110

Well, if one is the master of their own domain... GoCubsGo May 2014 #121

you might be right, I might even agree, but to be clear... maggiesfarmer May 2014 #20

Does doing it "right" involve redqueen May 2014 #22

Doing it right involves using a clockwise motion with the right hand ... dawg May 2014 #40

Years ago, the National Lampoon published the "Palma Sutra". riqster May 2014 #107

Mostly it involves teaching jeff47 May 2014 #151

when I was a teenager I could have taught that class arely staircase May 2014 #108

I think we often call our sacred cows "needs" to better rationalize bad decisions. LanternWaste May 2014 #9

But I need to eat Doritos and watch Netflix 3 hours a day. dawg May 2014 #41

Is that all? Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #58

Sometimes sex is needed to die, or, at least to get exploding genitals snooper2 May 2014 #10

In his manifesto AgingAmerican May 2014 #12

not necessary like air, water, food, clothing... maggiesfarmer May 2014 #13

Absent sex, the whole species dies. Laelth May 2014 #16

This, pretty much. nt AverageJoe90 May 2014 #30

Hello, Joe. Laelth May 2014 #35

The implication of this though... Lancero May 2014 #168

Sex is not a "right." Laelth May 2014 #169

Sex isn't necessary for the survial of humanity. Lancero May 2014 #170

Hmm ... Laelth May 2014 #171

Who says I'm denying the importance of it? Lancero May 2014 #173

No clue where you are going with this. Laelth May 2014 #174

When the entire media seems to be geared to saying how easy it is dickthegrouch May 2014 #19

I identify with that 40 year-old virgin movie. dawg May 2014 #45

I love Asia, and Yes, and Sky dickthegrouch May 2014 #46

It is a biological imperative RobertEarl May 2014 #21

Your comment is non responsive to what is asked in the OP. boston bean May 2014 #24

It sure makes life more fun and enjoyable RobertEarl May 2014 #27

You make it seem like it's such a rarity. Plenty of people do not have sex. boston bean May 2014 #29

I sure am glad i lived with it. RobertEarl May 2014 #36

No one is saying one must live without it if they have a willing partners. boston bean May 2014 #38

It's an absolute requirement for the species, but not to any single individual. eom MohRokTah May 2014 #28

Not in the biological sense. But in the mental sense, maybe? NickB79 May 2014 #31

I reject this. And the reason is because it involves another participant. boston bean May 2014 #37

It's part of a larger agenda. nt redqueen May 2014 #44

I don't think that is a valid reason to reject it tkmorris May 2014 #48

Really you think that not having sex causes mental health issues? boston bean May 2014 #51

You seem to have responded to the wrong post tkmorris May 2014 #56

"People don't need to have sex to live fulfilling lives" NickB79 May 2014 #50

Many people do live fulfilling lives absence of sex. boston bean May 2014 #55

And many people don't. That's why blanket statements are so difficult NickB79 May 2014 #66

Similar situation here. Dawgs May 2014 #72

So many people don't even realize BC pills can do that kcr May 2014 #138

You then believe that a paraplegic is unable to love another person? LanternWaste May 2014 #52

There is more to sex than Tab A into Slot B NickB79 May 2014 #67

I think you're beginning to flail. LanternWaste May 2014 #83

I don't need shelter or human interaction to live LittleBlue May 2014 #34

Absolutely not. sinkingfeeling May 2014 #39

OK, you're not buying it tkmorris May 2014 #42

Can you clarify this� Sweet Freedom May 2014 #47

I mean that a healthy sex life has been shown... tkmorris May 2014 #49

So, maybe if some girl did sleep with Elliot he might have a better mental health outcome? boston bean May 2014 #53

I am not seeing your problem with this concept tkmorris May 2014 #65

Then I think you are having a problem with the concept I am speaking about. Are you? boston bean May 2014 #69

It is an odious assertion. redqueen May 2014 #68

Sex, sex, sex, sex, sex.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #78

Excellent post. Blue_Adept May 2014 #84

Wow, I wasn't aware that all I ever discussed was penis in vagina. boston bean May 2014 #93

Can't say I'm surprised. ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #94

No insulting false openers make me lose interest in anything further you have to say. boston bean May 2014 #95

Or you just can't answer anything else I said ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #96

Right, I didn't read it, so I can't answer it, nor do I want to. boston bean May 2014 #98

meh... insults and jabs thru out. and a bunch of duh... but, he basically agrees, that no seabeyond May 2014 #115

I missed the other insults. redqueen May 2014 #120

yes. jabs. that is what i was talking about. was sure to get them in the rest seabeyond May 2014 #122

You have many good reasons to read beyond that. Schema Thing May 2014 #97

Don't bother ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #100

Read the rest of it, it is worth it. uppityperson May 2014 #112

Please post this as an OP. Schema Thing May 2014 #99

Maybe I will rewrite later, but it needs context nt. ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #102

I agree with almost everything you said *after* your nonsensical dig at bb. redqueen May 2014 #106

I thought the conversation was beyond Elliot Rodgers? ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #111

Physical intimacy is a need. I agree with that. But that isn't romance. redqueen May 2014 #114

And though we can sympathize with lonely hearts redqueen May 2014 #113

"Tis better to love and lost...." and all that? ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #116

True but again, the idea promoted that bb is addressing is that people need *sex*. redqueen May 2014 #119

Thanks for writing that jamzrockz May 2014 #166

See multiple responses in supplied link to GD post. LanternWaste May 2014 #54

Sex is like food. The_Commonist May 2014 #57

GREAT POST!!! n/t Dawgs May 2014 #63

Or he may have simply terrorized her. redqueen May 2014 #70

I'm not quite sure what that means... The_Commonist May 2014 #73

Really? It should be obvious. redqueen May 2014 #75

Not according to tons of asexuals and if you want to qualify them as unhealthy individuals... that's MillennialDem May 2014 #86

Again, I've known 3 people over the years... The_Commonist May 2014 #91

I disagree. "but certainly to be healthy" Might be true for some people but not all. nt raccoon May 2014 #92

you don't need sex to be healthy noiretextatique May 2014 #126

Completely agree with you. closeupready May 2014 #156

Because of some severe emotional trauma (not rape or sexual abuse) because of a bad MillennialDem May 2014 #60

well... i do not know what is up, seabeyond May 2014 #118

Please tell us who's made this suggestion? Dawgs May 2014 #62

well if everyone stopped doing it arely staircase May 2014 #71

But that wouldn't matter for those of us alive today, other than people signed up for cryonics. MillennialDem May 2014 #74

I am not sure world wide chastity or cryonics are particularly practical nt arely staircase May 2014 #80

I never said they were, just that propagation of the species is not required. You don't get a 5 year MillennialDem May 2014 #81

It is necessary that at least some people have sex for the species to continue gollygee May 2014 #79

Some people probably do, just like some people think LGBT caused Hurricane Katrina, Zorra May 2014 #76

That's what I was saying with my first reply, reply#2 Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #82

Yeh, ideas don't need to have any basis in fact or common reality in Zorra May 2014 #103

I think it's more helpful to consider that the sex drive is perhaps the strongest we have, Maedhros May 2014 #89

Nope. TDale313 May 2014 #104

Having done without shelter and food in my past, riqster May 2014 #109

Who decides what someone needs? IronLionZion May 2014 #117

You said your ex was a sex addict. redqueen May 2014 #123

One's self-imagined "need" for sex certainly informs how they behave. Maedhros May 2014 #128

Agreed, but some here are outright stating that sex is a need. Full stop. redqueen May 2014 #131

No matter how we try, we cannot escape our biological needs: Maedhros May 2014 #135

Perception creates our reality IronLionZion May 2014 #136

It is a want, not a need. Rex May 2014 #124

Define 'live'. Shandris May 2014 #125

Air, water, food, compatible climate/shelter level need? No, but we are talking major quality of TheKentuckian May 2014 #127

It is essential part of happiness for many of us. alphafemale May 2014 #129

this is a good post. and some have no desire to ever read a good book or sit outside seabeyond May 2014 #132

then you make it more. cali May 2014 #134

You really think Helen Keller wouldn't have rathered to speak hear and see? alphafemale May 2014 #137

I can't say. Neither can you. I can tell you this cali May 2014 #147

That was very nicely put. +1! nt IronLionZion May 2014 #139

What reality do you think pertains to me, personally? Please answer this question. boston bean May 2014 #144

Your reality is your reality. alphafemale May 2014 #167

no one mocks sex. we do demand that others not use it as a weapon against us. surely that is allowed seabeyond May 2014 #172

It's not necessary for *survival* LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #130

Rather pointless without it. rug May 2014 #140

what is pointless without it? Life? boston bean May 2014 #142

Ultimately. rug May 2014 #143

Really? ok. boston bean May 2014 #145

That's not the question. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #141

I was going to post the same chart Nevernose May 2014 #148

Other than the survival of the species ... GeorgeGist May 2014 #146

I think we all have the right to love and be loved Nevernose May 2014 #149

Elliot Rodger didn't think so AgingAmerican May 2014 #150

Do you think sex is necessary for the survival of a species that reproduces sexually? nt rrneck May 2014 #152

Yeah, I do. I'm not some dolt. boston bean May 2014 #153

I'm sure you're not. rrneck May 2014 #154

You don't see a difference? Ok... boston bean May 2014 #155

The difference is quite obvious. rrneck May 2014 #157

huh? go play someplace else. I'm busy right now. nt boston bean May 2014 #160

Busy doing what? rrneck May 2014 #161

It's a need for good mental health. As others have pointed out, closeupready May 2014 #158

I don't sex to live. I live to sex. bigwillq May 2014 #159

Asexuals tell their stories Scout May 2014 #162

They have a vacant and lost look about them miyazaki May 2014 #163

Merely a photographer's editorial choice. Hell Hath No Fury May 2014 #164

"Sex is a waste of time" joeglow3 May 2014 #165