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bhikkhu

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111. I agree, that's been my experience as well

Wed May 28, 2014, 12:37 AM

May 2014

there is no "male mind" and "female mind", though we do all undergo cultural conditioning that bends us one way or another.

I think a great deal can be gained by thinking of ourselves and others as individuals, dropping the stereotypes and value judgements based on appearance and so forth. Its been said (and well-proven, I believe) that "races don't exist", inasmuch as measured differences between races are far less than the differences between individuals within any race. So, race as a way of defining an individual simply doesn't work. The same applies to gender, in my experience - what you can know about a person based on outward appearance is entirely trivial, compared to who that person really is inside. Yet we continually judge and expect based on appearance...

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I want to know how men REALLY think about women and sex [View all] fried eggs May 2014 OP

That's a pretty broad question. Mojo Electro May 2014 #1

I don't know where to begin fried eggs May 2014 #3

Sex/relationships and wealth have a long, storied history Mojo Electro May 2014 #6

Angry men, yes. Laelth May 2014 #12

not similar at all Leme May 2014 #60

I thank you for raising the question. Hopefully it will start men and women thinking genwah May 2014 #2

Wow, you have a very interesting personal history. Beacool May 2014 #87

I've been here for twelve years. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #4

+1000. Sad, but true. closeupready May 2014 #26

Of course we will libodem May 2014 #31

Did you just opt out here? You can lead some men to water, but... bettyellen May 2014 #38

Weirdly ties right in to the right wing old fashioned idea treestar May 2014 #52

yes, the want a "nanny state" courtesy of us women- we need to make sure they go to the doc, bettyellen May 2014 #56

i think making your partner feel good about themselves is noble, so long as it doesn't come at the dionysus May 2014 #82

Sure. treestar May 2014 #88

i couldn't even make it past the third point in that link before throwing up in my mouth a little, dionysus May 2014 #135

"No, that dress doesn't make you look fat." lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #83

I'm talking about the old doctrine treestar May 2014 #89

I think you're confusing conscientiousness with a big patriarchal conspiracy. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #91

just curious but, why isn't it dropping like a stone? Skittles May 2014 #96

A hit below the forward stack! Eleanors38 May 2014 #119

Good idea. Laelth May 2014 #5

Good idea face-to-face in the real world. Not on an internet message board. Iggo May 2014 #21

+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #64

Should I join discussionist? fried eggs May 2014 #37

Who is a progressive man? n/t genwah May 2014 #42

One who's not an "outright misogynist"? That's a start anyway... nomorenomore08 May 2014 #65

It's very mixed bag over there, with more RW assholes for sure. bettyellen May 2014 #57

I think Shankapotomus May 2014 #7

I disagree. Laelth May 2014 #13

You certainly shouldn't renounce it if it's attainable Shankapotomus May 2014 #23

I agree that it's wrong to shame people who are alone. Laelth May 2014 #33

It helps Shankapotomus May 2014 #36

We are social creatures shedevil69taz May 2014 #101

I agree that marriage isn't for everyone. n/t Laelth May 2014 #131

the responses I get though from people who think it's the holy grail shedevil69taz May 2014 #132

I agree, and with that old saw about stop looking treestar May 2014 #19

Yep Shankapotomus May 2014 #25

I also disagree. Sex is essential for happiness. closeupready May 2014 #28

Depends on the person treestar May 2014 #30

Well, yeah, I was generalizing - naturally, there will be exceptions closeupready May 2014 #32

No, by definition a generalization applies to every data point. mathematic May 2014 #75

Okay, I think I'm done here. closeupready May 2014 #84

Maybe for you Shankapotomus May 2014 #34

+1 redqueen May 2014 #40

For most people. If you don't need it, you are 1 in maybe 100. closeupready May 2014 #44

Absolutely! +1 Everyone deserves the sex life they want and if it's genwah May 2014 #47

Nope PasadenaTrudy May 2014 #85

I absolutely agree Skittles May 2014 #97

The inability to withstand aloneness is a big problem in American society steve2470 May 2014 #105

YOU KNOW IT STEVE Skittles May 2014 #107

yep no ass kicking required :) steve2470 May 2014 #122

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that's deep Warren steve2470 May 2014 #127

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #128

I think very few are steve2470 May 2014 #129

that is an interesting observation Skittles May 2014 #137

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aw the lessons in diversity were amazing Skittles May 2014 #139

Well this will only bring on an attack by the the *s. Delete now or suffer their wrath. L0oniX May 2014 #8

Well, somebody has to start. DetlefK May 2014 #9

I have seen some of this. LWolf May 2014 #14

Very interesting. Thanks! How do you think fried eggs May 2014 #16

Misogyny means hatred for women; if you hated women, would you 'engage with closeupready May 2014 #46

One reason could be that we are taught early on to bottle up emotional issues. Inkfreak May 2014 #51

Thank you SO MUCH for your excellent explanation of objectification and its consequences redqueen May 2014 #41

Good points. I can say I had my ideals, but I never got there in real life bhikkhu May 2014 #58

^^^ This ^^^ ...Thank You alittlelark May 2014 #108

I think you are close but missing one crucial component. TM99 May 2014 #86

"I see immature men AND women daily." PassingFair May 2014 #95

If only, it was 'my' POV. TM99 May 2014 #112

....uh, yeah.... "Again, both sexes are exactly the same." alittlelark May 2014 #110

At the core of human experience TM99 May 2014 #113

Uh, yeah....we are QUITE different. alittlelark May 2014 #115

Imaginations are not reality. TM99 May 2014 #116

No, as someone w/ an Anth degree I can tell you we are. alittlelark May 2014 #117

So is that a BA or Ph.D. in Anthropology? TM99 May 2014 #118

Pedestrian BA looking at something on her heel... alittlelark May 2014 #124

Well, I am not playing your game either. TM99 May 2014 #133

I agree, that's been my experience as well bhikkhu May 2014 #111

Yes, thank you. TM99 May 2014 #121

what men think about women and sex? The exact damned thing that women think about men and sex. seabeyond May 2014 #123

Everyone views things according to their own unique perspective. dawg May 2014 #10

A-mutha-fuckin'-men, my friend! Ferretherder May 2014 #103

I want to know what people think about war RobertEarl May 2014 #11

Interesting, LWolf May 2014 #18

We are different RobertEarl May 2014 #27

There is no one way men and women think. bemildred May 2014 #15

Hear, hear! Not about your first marriage, of which, whatever, but I have also genwah May 2014 #39

I'm on my third, 26 years now. bemildred May 2014 #45

Yay! Good on ya' my best wishes to you and your obviously beloved. From here, it sounds like genwah May 2014 #48

People have individual views treestar May 2014 #17

I have old-fashioned beliefs about sex. dawg May 2014 #20

There's a term for this now. redqueen May 2014 #49

I don't think that applies to me. dawg May 2014 #55

WTF???? Common Sense Party May 2014 #109

There is no one way that all men think about women and sex KurtNYC May 2014 #22

Insightful post. n/t Laelth May 2014 #35

Jealousy is a relationship-killer. Want a good relationship? Be a friend as well as a lover. winter is coming May 2014 #50

Jealousy is ALWAYS a bad sign...... alittlelark May 2014 #125

Then don't ask about it here on DU. closeupready May 2014 #24

Correct. Iggo May 2014 #59

You might, but the prevailing culture on DU won't really allow it. eom TransitJohn May 2014 #29

I notice with some interest that despite many predictions to the opposite this post still exists el_bryanto May 2014 #43

Sex should be like a gift from one to another bhikkhu May 2014 #53

Growing up male can be a difficult thing. Inkfreak May 2014 #54

Be careful what you wish for! WinkyDink May 2014 #61

As a woman Arugula Latte May 2014 #62

I Think the *Range* is Probably a Lot Greater On the Road May 2014 #63

Not sure if you want me to explain men to you Leme May 2014 #66

Heterosexual sex should be no different for women or men Major Nikon May 2014 #67

For men and women, relationships and self worth are related. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #68

You think that's not true for women? XemaSab May 2014 #69

I've been married for 30 years. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #70

If women are assumed to be single by choice, from where did the pejorative "cat lady" come from? Hippo_Tron May 2014 #71

Non sequitur lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #81

Wikipedia! and YouTube, documentary was done in 2009 snooper2 May 2014 #90

Were you around in the 80s for the "man shortage" treestar May 2014 #92

At birth, there are far more boys than girls. lumberjack_jeff May 2014 #94

The "man shortage" started at age 25 treestar May 2014 #98

All men don't think alike. Not even close. cali May 2014 #72

so true steve2470 May 2014 #100

I think I'd be a lot happier with the whole thing if we didn't live in a patriarchal society Hippo_Tron May 2014 #73

I like both a lot! IronLionZion May 2014 #74

Does anyone really know HOW the mind thinks? liberal N proud May 2014 #76

Curious question. H2O Man May 2014 #77

"Men" do not have one hive mind. There are as many ways for "men" to think about MadrasT May 2014 #78

Which men? Your premise supposes that all men think MineralMan May 2014 #79

I wasn't asking for someone to speak for everyone else fried eggs May 2014 #134

Sex? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #80

I believe women own their own bodies (and men their own as well) and whatever they choose to do... devils chaplain May 2014 #93

it's a complex thing steve2470 May 2014 #99

Huh? I'm a single guy, so all I can say is... daleanime May 2014 #102

Well, I am probably not the most typical male in the world, but... riqster May 2014 #104

men. i really enjoyed reading a lot of what was being said in this thread. seabeyond May 2014 #106

Go to an AA Men's stag meeting in drag dogknob May 2014 #114

I love. Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #120

I believe this holds true for all... whistler162 May 2014 #130

I am in favor of both. yellowcanine May 2014 #136