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Daniel Ellsberg stands behind this young man along with 7wo7rees May 2014 #1
Snowden is on the right side of history. grasswire May 2014 #6
Sibel Edmonds, Bernie Sanders, Jimmy Carter all say he should face his crimes. randome May 2014 #8
I hope they don't expect him to rot in a supermax prison for decades. Vattel May 2014 #20
Why would they? He deserves time but I would hope it wouldn't be excessive. randome May 2014 #90
Given his neurological disorder, I would think he'd qualify for medical pardon, and certainly would msanthrope May 2014 #97
I didn't realize he was diagnosed with a neurological disorder. Vattel May 2014 #108
Late onset seizure disorder is what he claimed to his bosses at BAH. Must suck, not being able to msanthrope May 2014 #109
Why would that get you a medical pardon? Vattel May 2014 #113
It might not. It might get him Butner. nt msanthrope May 2014 #116
"The man is very confused." The smears never stop. Vattel May 2014 #107
Actually, Sanders doesn't care about Snowden because it's the wrong discussion anti partisan May 2014 #66
Please link and kick it if you can, woo me with science May 2014 #14
the comments section is excellent grasswire May 2014 #16
Snowden is nothing but a spoiler. dem in texas May 2014 #2
This guy has really gone off the deep end now. MohRokTah May 2014 #3
agree... HipChick May 2014 #7
He has made boasts that don't reconcile with his record.. Historic NY May 2014 #32
Why should he have to prove any of that? anti partisan May 2014 #70
Absolutely agree w you davekriss May 2014 #88
excellent grasswire May 2014 #118
He WAS a spy anti partisan May 2014 #69
Sure sounds to me like the poor kid has gone round the bend struggle4progress May 2014 #4
that is a disgusting assertion grasswire May 2014 #5
What discredits him is his habit of saying things that are untrue. Less clear is whether struggle4progress May 2014 #9
more insidious assertions of mental illness... grasswire May 2014 #17
Oh, I'm happy to have people question authority. And I've said for years here struggle4progress May 2014 #55
It is impossible to do the nitty-gritty without information. Snowden and Manning were the suppliers. Luminous Animal May 2014 #62
I personally think folk should organize to get Drake a pardon struggle4progress May 2014 #65
Maybe you should be better at expressing your opinion... Luminous Animal May 2014 #73
It would be courteous of you to speak for yourself and not put words in my mouth struggle4progress May 2014 #78
Who are these complainers that aren't doing the hard work? Luminous Animal May 2014 #79
Great post s4p treestar May 2014 #91
So, Whistle Blowers are 'mentally ill' now? But Bush's loyal NSA spies are perfectly sane! sabrina 1 May 2014 #114
The fact is that Snowden himself disclosed a late-onset seizure disorder that raises serious, and I msanthrope May 2014 #83
oh my god grasswire May 2014 #98
I used the term "neurological" not "mental." As you are the parent of an adult msanthrope May 2014 #102
"psychiatric symptoms", "alcoholism" grasswire May 2014 #104
I used "neurological" as opposed to "mental" precisely to avoid conflation. But there's no doubt msanthrope May 2014 #105
but "bizarre and grandiose" and "liar" are attributes... grasswire May 2014 #111
They are attributes anyone can freely assign him after witnessing his antics. He's a 'spy' now? msanthrope May 2014 #117
Just when we thought the smear attempts could not possibly sink lower or become more despicable... woo me with science May 2014 #115
Did he? KamaAina May 2014 #101
Indeed--he not only disclosed it, he told his bosses at BAH he was flying to HK for msanthrope May 2014 #103
Lots of people have lied about Snowden. Snowden hasn't been caught lying. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #11
(1) There's no chance he had the ability to wiretap the president, as he claimed. If true, struggle4progress May 2014 #12
Re "There's no chance he had the ability to wiretap the president" 951-Riverside May 2014 #21
The 1997 Gingrich mobile phone call was captured on an ordinary police scanner; in the conversation struggle4progress May 2014 #25
In rebuttal Luminous Animal May 2014 #22
Ty for saving me the time of having to point all of this out. Vattel May 2014 #26
Well, the Obama "loyalists" have to get in line behind the loyal Tigerbeat Snowdenistas. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Whisp May 2014 #56
Snowden is now part of the smear Snowden machine..... whistler162 May 2014 #82
Re 1: Snowden said ""I had the authorities to wiretap anyone" struggle4progress May 2014 #29
Except for the pesky fact that NSA documents reveal just that. Luminous Animal May 2014 #33
If you admit he would have gotten into trouble for doing so, you are also admitting struggle4progress May 2014 #38
Re 2: Stickers on his computer, and whatever parties he threw, are not on point struggle4progress May 2014 #30
Re 3: At least one NSA contractor lost job over this struggle4progress May 2014 #31
So says the NSA. Proven liars. Whereas, Snowden's narrative stands up time after time. Luminous Animal May 2014 #36
Be careful or you will commit yourself to the view that everyone except Snowden is a liar struggle4progress May 2014 #39
Re 4: In story accompanying Snowden interview, the Guardian reported struggle4progress May 2014 #35
I really think you do not know what you are saying. Ft Benning is where special forc recruits train. Luminous Animal May 2014 #40
I provided links struggle4progress May 2014 #48
But there's not (at least officially) a way to do 18X into the reserves Recursion May 2014 #52
I maintain LIHOP. joshcryer May 2014 #76
Apparently, a GED is sufficient: From the US Army Special Forces recruitment criteria site Luminous Animal May 2014 #41
It's possible that requirements vary according to entry mode. This website suggests struggle4progress May 2014 #44
Yeah, the reserve contract was another red flag for me Recursion May 2014 #51
What part of the army confirmed do you not understand. Luminous Animal May 2014 #54
The coverage from even reputable media is often demonstrably wrong here: struggle4progress May 2014 #59
And, I pointed to an actual U.S. Army website that a GED is sufficient. Oh well. Luminous Animal May 2014 #77
Well, yeah, *if* Obama used a gmail account, sure Recursion May 2014 #46
The "diplomatic cover" angle comes from Harding's book. joshcryer May 2014 #63
XKeyscore is not reading the President's emails. joshcryer May 2014 #61
A-fucking-again. *IF* Snowden HAD THE PRESIDENT'S PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS... *IF* *IF* Luminous Animal May 2014 #64
You don't understand. joshcryer May 2014 #67
Okey-dokey. Apparently (hahahaha!) Merkel does not use encryption. Luminous Animal May 2014 #71
On a personal, unsecured phone. joshcryer May 2014 #72
Exactly. Luminous Animal May 2014 #74
Which was secured shortly after Obama took office. joshcryer May 2014 #75
(4) The U.S. army confirmed to the Guardian that Snowden did not join the special forces. baldguy May 2014 #84
Snowden never claimed he was in special forces. Luminous Animal May 2014 #93
Did you read the article? Vattel May 2014 #24
Thanks for that! Luminous Animal May 2014 #27
I have never heard "lectured at the academy" used as a synonym for "spoke at a conference" struggle4progress May 2014 #37
Example UC Berkeley's Lecture Series which is hosting a conference and invited Luminous Animal May 2014 #42
I know what the words mean. I'm telling you how they are commonly used struggle4progress May 2014 #45
Really. I go to lectures regularly at conferences and events at universities and otherwise. Luminous Animal May 2014 #53
The desperation to discover a lie is really pretty funny. Vattel May 2014 #112
Snowden should release his manifesto. joshcryer May 2014 #60
He is just a low level IT hack LOL, he STOLE passwords to get the documents snooper2 May 2014 #89
Article won't load properly for me. Does he say what name he was given? randome May 2014 #10
really getting under your skin, isn't this? nt grasswire May 2014 #19
Poitras and Greenwald have his name and CIA ID #. The CIA refuses to comment. Luminous Animal May 2014 #28
Yeah, and we should believe anything you say....why? Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #49
He was quite clear that he ruined his life *as he knew it* before he came forward as the leaker. Luminous Animal May 2014 #50
I actually found the part about using a false name easy to believe. Every time I get an off-shored Tanuki May 2014 #80
That's not for the purposes of anonymity. baldguy May 2014 #85
Response seems to be off the chart. 7wo7rees May 2014 #13
thank you for your honest patriotism here grasswire May 2014 #18
I think he was trained at the same spy school as flamingdem May 2014 #15
Is that the Snowcone of Silence? Whisp May 2014 #57
Yes, it inspired Snowden and flamingdem May 2014 #96
k krawhitham May 2014 #23
KnR sheshe2 May 2014 #34
I can't believe ProSense May 2014 #86
I can't wait to hear what Bill Maher has to say about this. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #47
I spy with my little eye - an Eddie who likes to Bullshit. n/t Whisp May 2014 #58
Is that what the smell is? Bullshit? Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #99
Do you realize how foolish you look by mocking the idea that someone could be trained... anti partisan May 2014 #81
And a high school dropout, no less. He's good. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #100
He was recruited for the super-secret COLGATE4 May 2014 #119
Now that's what I call "white male privelege". From high school dropout to "super secret black ops"! Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #121
He even got his secret decoder ring too. nt COLGATE4 May 2014 #122
Right...because this is a Hollywood movie where a high-school dropout who could not msanthrope May 2014 #110
This message was self-deleted by its author anti partisan May 2014 #68
I think this could only happen for a white, male, child of privilege who dropped out of school. kelliekat44 May 2014 #87
Wondeful...Brilliant Blue_Tires May 2014 #92
Glenn Greenwald: Low-Level NSA Analysts Have ‘Powerful and Invasive’ Search Tool ProSense May 2014 #94
Quick...someone get him a cape!!! Sheepshank May 2014 #95
Your order is ready, Sir... Whisp May 2014 #106
He's gone from James Bond to Forrest Gump in three weeks. ucrdem May 2014 #120
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