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1. I love how Dean gets to sidestep all of the 'third way' nonsense thrown around here
Wed May 28, 2014, 02:00 PM
May 2014

. . . all of the candidates mentioned, save, perhaps Warren (do we know enough about her politics outside of economics?) are all folks who would get absolutely torn apart here at DU (as Obama and Clinton are now) for their stands on one issue or the other. All are establishment politicians who have embraced one form of political pragmatism or the other in matters of the military or in matters of economics.

(Here's a presentation) of candidates who 'mix liberal and conservative positions'. That's what we have now. That's what we have in a Clinton candidacy. What is the point of such a viral opposition to Clinton and the embrace of candidates who will likely not stray far from the D.C. orthodoxy?

Now, if (the author) is just talking about folks who have a chance of winning . . . that would mean the author recognizes the limits of a progressive campaign in expecting enough support from a nation of voters to reach the WH. I never lose sight of that. I don't believe we have the luxury of enabling a republican candidacy by clinging to a politically weak candidate, no matter how close they adhere to progressive principles. There IS a difference between parties on the presidential level. We should never forget that.

I can't tell you how disappointing (that list is), to someone who has heard and absorbed all of the criticisms of moderates and even liberals here on this board. Whoever that person may be to challenge these established choices, they'd better do more than complain about some lock Clinton has on the nomination and begin to traverse the miles she has already and capture the support she's already garnering through her early efforts.

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I love how Dean gets to sidestep all of the 'third way' nonsense thrown around here bigtree May 2014 #1
In case Harry Enten doesn't respond to you Capt. Obvious May 2014 #2
you just picked a random article and posted it? bigtree May 2014 #3
No. As per custom - articles one reads that you think should be discussed here are posted. Capt. Obvious May 2014 #4
do the picture threads bother you? bigtree May 2014 #5
Maybe Obama took Bo for a walk today Capt. Obvious May 2014 #6
you want a lively discussion? You got the beginnings of one with my first post bigtree May 2014 #7
The first post making accusatory Capt. Obvious May 2014 #8
I must have missed the part where you disagreed with the article you posted bigtree May 2014 #9
let me start fresh with a random pic that I think should be discussed here bigtree May 2014 #10
As insincere as you are Capt. Obvious May 2014 #11
will a serious challenger emerge from the left? bigtree May 2014 #12
For once I almost agree with you Armstead May 2014 #13
I'd be almost giddy for a Sherrod Brown candidacy bigtree May 2014 #15
Several points Capt. Obvious May 2014 #14
I think there is a galvanizing issue -- It's just a matter of packaging it correctly Armstead May 2014 #16
It's a predetermined outcome Capt. Obvious May 2014 #19
IMO we're a country in which elections have generally been very close and up for grabs Armstead May 2014 #20
With Democrats eating from the same trough Capt. Obvious May 2014 #21
I like how all these article ignore the actual liberal with an exploratory committee & an on-ground FSogol May 2014 #17
Vermin Supreme doesn't stand a chance Capt. Obvious May 2014 #18
Gov. O'malley? Armstead May 2014 #22
Ding,ding ding! Yup, Gov. Martin O'Malley n/t FSogol May 2014 #23
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