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Major Nikon

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98. I could give a shit less about Warren Farrell

Wed May 28, 2014, 02:54 PM

May 2014

You were taking his words out of context and I added the context. It's that simple really. If you don't like having your disingenuous comments amended for clarity, then don't make disingenuous comments. Pretty simple stuff really.

If you don't like the data and conclusions that two academic feminists came up with, you should take it up with them. I've noticed you seem to only have a problem with it when I repeat it, and have yet to say one word condemning what they had to say about it, or even so much as acknowledge they studied it at all. Very telling that someone wouldn't even want to discuss their favorite topic studied by no less than two feminists. But to answer your question directly, I reckon it was around the same time your TERF buddies were having the TERF pow-wow over at duckies to hate on the transgender because you guys couldn't do it here anymore after they got the boot. If you think I'm afraid of my comments, you're quite wrong. I have them in my journal for everyone who wants to can review quite easily. Unlike you I stand behind what I say rather than running away from it and pretending it never happened, as if anyone is really going to believe you.

Just sayin'

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What is 'misandry'? [View all] redqueen May 2014 OP

See: your posting history. name not needed May 2014 #1

lol quinnox May 2014 #2

I'd rather people check out your posts... here and in the men's group. redqueen May 2014 #3

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #38

I didn't accuse him of anything. redqueen May 2014 #49

So you were just ReallyQuiet about it Major Nikon May 2014 #67

Ugh. Again with the stalker bullshit. redqueen May 2014 #69

It's like deja-vu all over again Major Nikon May 2014 #73

I post links to you defending Warren Farrell here, redqueen May 2014 #85

I could give a shit less about Warren Farrell Major Nikon May 2014 #98

Your posts in that thread, and many others since then, here on DU, speak for themselves. nt redqueen May 2014 #100

As do yours Major Nikon May 2014 #109

As a man, I have to say that is completely untrue. closeupready May 2014 #5

See this passage of the OP ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #37

right on schedule. niyad May 2014 #7

I wonder if you are aware gollygee May 2014 #24

Are you kidding? Warpy May 2014 #32

Thanks for proving redqueen's point, predictably. n/t chervilant May 2014 #25

thanks for proving that accusations of misandry are really not honest geek tragedy May 2014 #45

BOOM CFLDem May 2014 #53

Hey, what was the context of your PM to sea that included the c-word? redqueen May 2014 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author CFLDem May 2014 #70

Did it not dawn on you that feminists who are opposed to the normalization of misogynist slurs redqueen May 2014 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author CFLDem May 2014 #84

Knock off the act. No one's buying it. nt redqueen May 2014 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author CFLDem May 2014 #90

are you aware of how creepy you are acting right now? nt geek tragedy May 2014 #92

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #95

"rabid fempack" geek tragedy May 2014 #97

Oh my Dorian Gray May 2014 #114

It is, isn't it? CFLDem May 2014 #116

I meant your posts. Dorian Gray May 2014 #117

I know you did CFLDem May 2014 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger May 2014 #124

Too bad it's not permanent. The fear is strong in that one. Squinch May 2014 #125

no...just you noiretextatique May 2014 #187

troll and not a good one CreekDog Jun 2014 #200

It is creepy as hell. JTFrog May 2014 #136

BTW, sending PMs to adversaries is a tactic of intimidation...does not work with me noiretextatique May 2014 #194

I can't stand the poor men crowd. hrmjustin May 2014 #4

it is the same sort of mindset that allows xians to whine about how oppressed and niyad May 2014 #9

Good analogy! Raksha May 2014 #110

Well, yes and no. Warpy May 2014 #36

A swing and a miss ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #39

Partially correct Warpy May 2014 #76

Again ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #93

And importantly, they are not oppressed on the basis of their sex or ethnicity. nt redqueen May 2014 #41

Some can't seem to understand that race-based and class-based oppression are two different things. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #143

some people deny racism exists at all noiretextatique May 2014 #189

No shit. They're unable to see past the end of their own damn nose, as I've said before. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #192

denial is the chief privilege noiretextatique May 2014 #193

White males have lost SOME of their advantages. (Some, not all.) Women and people of color are now Squinch May 2014 #128

Mostly they lost one yardstick to justify social privilege, a much higher paycheck Warpy May 2014 #134

Oh, I'm sure it's a real thing. dawg May 2014 #6

There's also the question of how much power these hypothetical misandrists might have to el_bryanto May 2014 #13

I refer you and Dawg, both ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #42

You are so right on target. nt redqueen May 2014 #51

I realize they think they are ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #55

Why not unbite it and post an OP describing these? spooky3 May 2014 #172

I predict this OP will be filled with examples sufrommich May 2014 #8

without a doubt. niyad May 2014 #10

+2 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #144

there is another thread where this is proved repeatedly noiretextatique May 2014 #188

k and r and watching the usual suspects. niyad May 2014 #11

It's almost to the point now that I'm just embarrassed for them. redqueen May 2014 #16

What is 'obsession' snooper2 May 2014 #12

OK, this guy is officially a badass and handled it... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #21

Habaneros? We call them Yucatan Killers Warpy Jun 2014 #201

Ask msanthrope. randome May 2014 #14

You rang? nt msanthrope May 2014 #31

True misandry is probably fairly rare tkmorris May 2014 #15

Bingo! tea and oranges May 2014 #27

Taking a possibly expanded understanding of misandry dickthegrouch May 2014 #82

What you're describing is misogyny, in a nutshell. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #145

I think this would be a good addition to the forum rules. bloom May 2014 #17

Hmm. davidthegnome May 2014 #30

Banning the popcorn smiley. Phlem May 2014 #50

Who is advocating for banning the popcorn smiley??? nt msanthrope May 2014 #121

Misandry is... excringency May 2014 #18

"...an immense band-aid used by weak minds to cover their butt-hurt." nomorenomore08 May 2014 #146

misandry geek tragedy May 2014 #19

Fail n/t Gore1FL May 2014 #28

cries of 'misandry'=cries of 'reverse racism' geek tragedy May 2014 #29

Toss in "teh gay mafia iz opressing us", typically by fundamentalist bullwinkle428 May 2014 #40

isn't it amazing how it's conservative Christian, heterosexual, white men geek tragedy May 2014 #43

Don't sell yourself short. Gore1FL May 2014 #59

I'm not pretending to be a victim of anyone's purported bias against me. geek tragedy May 2014 #63

Fail n/t Gore1FL May 2014 #79

Fail n/t Gore1FL May 2014 #58

sorry, I don't belong to the ranks of self-pitying men geek tragedy May 2014 #60

Fail n/t Gore1FL May 2014 #78

One-word posts are not very convincing, by and large. And "fail" isn't really an argument. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #148

The person I responded to failed quite a bit in this thread. That's a fact, not an argument. n/t Gore1FL May 2014 #156

Actually, claiming someone has 'failed' in ia debate is an argument geek tragedy May 2014 #164

Fail n/t Gore1FL May 2014 #174

thank you for your standard level of thoughtfulness and intelligent discourse on gender. geek tragedy May 2014 #175

because I said so noiretextatique May 2014 #196

Not an argument, and observation. Gore1FL May 2014 #197

but... noiretextatique May 2014 #198

"However, dictionary definitions often fall short ..." oldhippie May 2014 #20

Thanks for proving redqueen's point, predictably. chervilant May 2014 #34

You're welcome ...... oldhippie May 2014 #133

Color me not surprised... n/t chervilant May 2014 #140

Why the defensiveness? What exactly do you have to lose? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #149

Time. nt oldhippie May 2014 #170

Oh, my. The very heart of the matter. We're going there. Zorra May 2014 #22

Good thing there is none of that on DU RobertEarl May 2014 #23

I'm Ok Wth This ProfessorGAC May 2014 #26

Why ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #46

Just An Opinion ProfessorGAC May 2014 #52

That's just it ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #74

Then You're Picking Nits, Too ProfessorGAC May 2014 #142

If you consider pointing out status quo supportive statements ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #147

It's not just one person redefining a term. redqueen May 2014 #81

I Agreed With The Concept ProfessorGAC May 2014 #141

Because people (not you) often use supposed small objections to subtly chip away at someone's nomorenomore08 May 2014 #150

I guess I'm just not getting what this means: redqueen May 2014 #160

largely a myth. And definitely not a problem. n/t librechik May 2014 #33

Thank You, redqueen tea and oranges May 2014 #35

And there is a reason for that ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #48

I seriously doubt that the vast majority of men trekbiker May 2014 #44

Hmmm ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #54

Very true Major Nikon May 2014 #62

As courts have done throughout history ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #77

I certainly understand that view. And I don't blame anyone (of any gender) who wishes to eschew nomorenomore08 May 2014 #151

I'm not anti-marriage, I'm just anti-marriage licensing Major Nikon May 2014 #157

I get that. And anything involving excessive bureaucracy tends to be a not-so-good thing. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #162

No fault divorce? Really? redqueen May 2014 #61

"Only 15 percent of cases go to court, and, of those, half involve domestic abuse." nomorenomore08 May 2014 #152

My pleasure. redqueen May 2014 #186

LMAO. Help, help, I'm being oppressed by no-fault divorce. geek tragedy May 2014 #65

Holy fucking shit! redqueen May 2014 #68

that's just from the first month's worth of posts. geek tragedy May 2014 #72

Check this beauty out : geek tragedy May 2014 #80

I call them handmaidens of the patriarchy. nt redqueen May 2014 #91

My copy of "The Handmaid's Tale" just arrived in the mail yesterday. Raksha May 2014 #120

Yikes! I guess I always knew there were female misogynists, but that's a new low. Raksha May 2014 #119

"Does it make her feel more important or what?" nomorenomore08 May 2014 #154

I had no idea that no-fault divorce was an issue, but I did a little googling gollygee May 2014 #71

the misogynists are not doing their apologists any favors geek tragedy May 2014 #86

Republicans have a problem with it too. redqueen May 2014 #94

It's an issue of "A woman can leave me and I can't make her suffer for it". JoeyT May 2014 #104

Outside of DU'niverse many men, and women probably could care less. Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #87

Damn, that's quite a blog. IronLionZion May 2014 #115

Sounds like a page ripped directly from the "MRA Ten Commandments"! bullwinkle428 May 2014 #161

K & R x 1000 KauaiK May 2014 #47

We're In 90% Agreement cer7711 May 2014 #56

It's the name of my boat Capt. Obvious May 2014 #57

The unmarried Andry daughter, but she prefers to be addressed as Ms. Andry ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #66

coffee, spit......... Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #89

This guy. Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #83

Hot Button Time Scott6113 May 2014 #96

MIRT!!!!! geek tragedy May 2014 #99

I can't prove it. Scott6113 May 2014 #111

Ah, and so of course it was believable to you that a woman would sit geek tragedy May 2014 #112

Your Choice Scott6113 May 2014 #131

You said you weren't there, but you're embellishing the details constantly. geek tragedy May 2014 #132

Not embellishing Scott6113 May 2014 #138

here is how I know your story is bullshit. geek tragedy May 2014 #139

I think she did it just enough to turn it red. Scott6113 May 2014 #163

Right... F4lconF16 May 2014 #177

Yes and yes Scott6113 May 2014 #178

funny how you concede that women have it worse than men and then geek tragedy May 2014 #185

I just have to use this. redqueen May 2014 #101

ROFL gollygee May 2014 #102

Oh lord yes. Starry Messenger May 2014 #103

Check yourself Scott6113 May 2014 #123

Ha ha ha ha ha!!! bravenak May 2014 #155

Flowchart. bravenak May 2014 #158

Nother graphic. bravenak May 2014 #159

Make my point, please Scott6113 May 2014 #179

You had a point? bravenak May 2014 #181

No lie, no joke, just showing what people can do Scott6113 May 2014 #182

I am going to tell you something that i hope doesn't offend you. bravenak May 2014 #183

Amen CFLDem May 2014 #105

Does that include PM'ing them gender slurs? Squinch May 2014 #129

"Hot Button" is right trekbiker May 2014 #106

The male perspective is welcome. The misogynists' perspective shouldn't geek tragedy May 2014 #113

Complaining about no-fault divorce would seem to be self-defeating, in his case, wouldn't it? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #166

I'm assuming something quite different about any abuse that would have happened in this chap's geek tragedy May 2014 #167

No way for me to know that. But I wouldn't discount the possibility, to be sure. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #169

Home of the shrill? chervilant May 2014 #180

"Calling feminists "shrill" is an example of misogyny...) " opiate69 May 2014 #190

Serious answer: the gender expectations are part of patriarchy IronLionZion May 2014 #108

+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #168

Thanks IronLionZion May 2014 #171

I'm just another dude with an opinion. But I try to be as understanding and compassionate nomorenomore08 May 2014 #173

Firstly MIRT, we've got a live one intaglio May 2014 #127

K & R and thank you, thank you, THANK YOU, redqueen! Raksha May 2014 #107

Re: banning the popcorn smiley. If there is one thing I would take a strong stand for quinnox May 2014 #122

Finally!! bravenak May 2014 #153

Something to talk about instead of gun control. nt valerief May 2014 #126

They are trying to pretend there is equality treestar May 2014 #130

Misandry does exist Prophet 451 May 2014 #135

kind of explains why some are so desperate to believe privilege doesn't exist! bettyellen May 2014 #137

BTW I do agree Scott6113 May 2014 #165

I wish they would answer the question I keep asking. Jamastiene May 2014 #176

I'll try flashbang May 2014 #184

Very good explanation. Jamastiene May 2014 #191

scarcity mentality...privilege...selfish...narcissism...entitlement noiretextatique May 2014 #195

In addition to the answers above, I'd like to mention access to women's bodies. redqueen May 2014 #199

Is misandry a real phenomenon? Sure The Traveler Jun 2014 #202

Nobody's trying to "make you feel" anything. Stop being so narcissistic. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #203