Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

Showing Original Post only (View all)

babylonsister

(171,029 posts)
Wed May 28, 2014, 05:17 PM May 2014

Obama just announced the most anti-war foreign policy doctrine in decades [View all]

http://www.vox.com/2014/5/28/5757630/obama-foreign-policy-anti-war-speech-doctrine

Obama just announced the most anti-war foreign policy doctrine in decades

Updated by Max Fisher on May 28, 2014, 12:40 p.m. ET @Max_Fisher max@vox.com


President Obama speaks at West Point JIM WATSON/AFP/Getty Images


President Obama made a commencement speech at West Point on Wednesday that the White House had aggressively billed as a grand articulation of Obama's foreign policy vision. This was not the first time he had attempted to lay out a foreign policy doctrine, and few expected much more than the usual vague policy mish-mash — when it's year six of your presidency and you still need to explain your doctrine, it's not a great sign that you really have one.

So it was a legitimate surprise when Obama articulated a unified, tightly focused vision of America's role in the world. And while it's not a vision that will thrill many foreign policy hands, including perhaps some of those in his administration, it is the clearest Obama foreign policy doctrine he's made in years: no war, no militarism, no adventurism. With the possible exception of Jimmy Carter's 1977 Notre Dame speech, it may well have been one of the most dovish foreign policy speeches by a sitting US president since Eisenhower.

Obama argued, directly and repeatedly, that the US would have to reduce its use of military force as a tool of foreign policy. Obama argued that the US could not and should not use military force, including even limited actions such as off-shore strikes, except when absolutely necessary to defend "core interests" or to "protect our people, our homeland, or our way of life."

That's a very high bar for the use of military force. Obama didn't just make the point abstractly, going through several major US foreign policy changes to explain why, in each, military force was not and should not be applied.

snip//

This doctrine means less of putting Americans into harms way, less of committing the United States to difficult and far-away conflicts, but it also means accepting some problems and risks as just a fact of life, beyond our ability to fix. As an example, he pointed to the Nigerian terrorist group Boko Haram as a problem the United States had to admit it couldn't solve. "Tragically, no American security operation can eradicate the threat posed by an extremist group like Boko Haram," he said, adding that "global leadership requires us to see the world as it is, with all its danger and uncertainty."

The Obama administration had previewed the speech as staking a middle ground between military adventurism and old-fashioned isolationism, and on the merits Obama did articulate such a foreign policy doctrine, one that replaces military-led foreign policy with multilateral diplomacy and alliance-building.

But, in execution, doing away with militarism and the use of force will be the much easier half of that. It's relatively easy to not order a cruise-missile strike or troop redeployment. Replacing that hard military power with soft power, and making it work, is a lot harder. Obama's got two years to prove to the world that he can do it. If he wants to see his superdove foreign policy doctrine survive beyond his time in office, he'll have to do a lot more with this doctrine than make speeches about it.
118 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
He does give one hell of a good speech. Autumn May 2014 #1
You sound pretty negative to me. Give me an anti-war prez ANY DAY. nt babylonsister May 2014 #4
You don't think he gives good speeches? Autumn May 2014 #26
Yeah, not hard to have her number or any of the ODSers.. whose Cha May 2014 #100
He does say the right things Pharaoh May 2014 #23
Well there is that Autumn May 2014 #27
not being Mitt Romeny is pretty fucking low bar Skittles May 2014 #76
Right, that bar is pretty fucking low Autumn May 2014 #85
What has he said ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #35
Here is where you'll get a litany of complaints... ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #75
I suspect you're right. eom. 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #82
Obama signs 'Monsanto Protection Act' written by Monsanto-sponsored senator Pharaoh May 2014 #95
Was that a response to my question? ... eom. 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #97
So refusing to destroy the economy because of Progressive dog May 2014 #110
Yeah, you'd actually have to know the Obama Admin's record of history to realize how ignorant your Cha May 2014 #101
I think he gives the best speeches out of any POTUS I have ever heard. Rex May 2014 #103
First time I ever heard him speak he had me in tears. Autumn May 2014 #105
I didn't know anything about him before he ran for office. Rex May 2014 #107
Why that no good cut and run commie randys1 May 2014 #2
Two major powerhouses have invaded Afghanistan and yet no one has ever beat them LynneSin May 2014 #3
Afghanistan was called the Graveyard of Empires. Bush was an ahistorical idiot, but you knew that Hekate May 2014 #24
Alexander the Great lost there Aerows May 2014 #34
Alexander the Great lost there? ieoeja May 2014 #112
Hell I knew they were fighting against an army... LynneSin May 2014 #36
Bin Laden was never trained by the CIA. That misinformation gets repeated constantly here. Ikonoklast May 2014 #68
Thank You! Bookmarking that website now. We are not in charge of the world, that's a myth. freshwest May 2014 #78
But arming Syrian rebels to fight Assad won't come back to bite us. Maedhros May 2014 #90
I know - it doesn't settle well in my stomach either LynneSin May 2014 #92
SEVERAL major powerhouses over the centuries have met their end Aerows May 2014 #37
Ok in the last 40 years LynneSin May 2014 #43
Oh, I agree Aerows May 2014 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author caraher May 2014 #50
But ...but ...but the Taliban = Al Qaeda. The Taliban attacked us on 911! L0oniX May 2014 #74
I applaud him for not buckling to neocon pressures. JaneyVee May 2014 #5
I think we are no longer able to tell the difference Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science May 2014 #11
The rightwing will gladly remind you exactly what JaneyVee May 2014 #12
Not anymore. Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #64
Curious ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #39
The rightwing doesn't want Obama starting wars LynneSin May 2014 #41
Syria, Libya, Russia, to name a few. Iliyah May 2014 #114
He's a tyrant, a hypocrite, blood on his hands EVEIL EVIL EVIL!!! MohRokTah May 2014 #6
Good job. You 'almost' beat them! :) nt babylonsister May 2014 #15
Don't worry, that train's never late. MSM will be tearing its hair thinking of ways to diss it. freshwest May 2014 #28
+1! sheshe2 May 2014 #69
I added a picture of the love birds. KICK!!! freshwest May 2014 #79
Yeah, but what about our secret wars? And our secret CIA armies? Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #7
See my reply #5 Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #9
The Administration says one thing, and does another. Maedhros May 2014 #30
Curious ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #38
Not at all. Maedhros May 2014 #48
Isn't that what he's doing? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #53
Training Syrian rebels? Training African rebels and tripling military operations there? Maedhros May 2014 #55
You don't see a difference in ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #60
That's exactly how our operations in Central America were described. Maedhros May 2014 #61
Are you attempting to compare ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #84
The Sandinistas opposed the Somoza Regime, which was a client state of the U.S. Maedhros May 2014 #86
My bad, I meant the "Countras" ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #87
My stance is this: Maedhros May 2014 #89
I will respond ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #93
Follow the money. Maedhros May 2014 #99
"'Our' national interests aren't really ours." woo me with science May 2014 #98
Sure sounds like arming the contras all over again. ozone_man May 2014 #65
It's the same playbook that's been around since Reagan (and before). Maedhros May 2014 #88
Let us know when the pretty words translate into policy. woo me with science May 2014 #10
+1. nt OnyxCollie May 2014 #19
Yes, indeed. Maedhros May 2014 #32
Libya, the Surge, the last-minute dash to keep us in Iraq, PAKISTAN, Yemen, MisterP May 2014 #40
Well, progressoid May 2014 #91
+1000. nt. polly7 May 2014 #96
Yup...i'm not buying it anymore...especially his continuation of 'American Exceptionalism'... truebrit71 May 2014 #104
Truth hurts newthinking May 2014 #118
One graph. toddwv May 2014 #13
Thanks, Obama, for the Sanity! freshwest May 2014 #14
Hey fresh.. check out #16.. :) Cha May 2014 #17
"Obama's West Point address, in two words.." Cha May 2014 #16
Mahalo, Cha, and thanks for babylonsister May 2014 #21
That's very good! And so is the blog! freshwest May 2014 #31
Now This I just Love! sheshe2 May 2014 #71
But but but He didn't scrap this speech and eulogize Maya Angelou instead! Hekate May 2014 #18
I saw that one too. Whisp May 2014 #22
I'm betting Maya would have approved. thanks Hekate nm Cha May 2014 #33
More amazingly ... well, almost is ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #46
Unfortunately, isolationism has never worked. We have to engage with the world. Hekate May 2014 #51
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #54
There is a libertarian... YvonneCa May 2014 #70
The Libertarians are also going after Obama in the VOX comment section. Might lose some of those freshwest May 2014 #83
The Pauls, et al, won't give him any credit for this, will they? They'd rather die first... freshwest May 2014 #81
Since drones and foreign but American-supported rebels will do the fighting, truedelphi May 2014 #20
I prefer the new foreign policy gwheezie May 2014 #25
Lost Iraq? bpj62 May 2014 #111
Does this mean we can just give sulphurdunn May 2014 #29
No to militarism.. but.. iamthebandfanman May 2014 #42
Best President Ever mwrguy May 2014 #45
Yes! freshwest May 2014 #62
This is why I voted for him. Now please follow through Mr. President. jwirr May 2014 #47
Thank you President Obama lovemydog May 2014 #49
Cegelis, Lamont, McKinney, Halter, Romanoff, Sestak, Grayson, Kucinich, Buono, Davis ring any bells? MisterP May 2014 #52
Yes! lovemydog May 2014 #58
Yes, this was all done on the local level by the GOP. Fight back close to home and GOTV! freshwest May 2014 #80
Most definitely, freshwest lovemydog May 2014 #94
Libertiarians at Vox.com while selling anti-war: Attack President for anti-war policy message. Todays_Illusion May 2014 #56
You have defined the situation perfectly. Thanks. freshwest May 2014 #63
anti-traditional war G_j May 2014 #57
See, no difference between the parties IronLionZion May 2014 #59
Sanity sounds good to me.. thanks Obama. mountain grammy May 2014 #66
VIDEO for you: freshwest May 2014 #67
hallelujah Iliyah May 2014 #116
Well ...it's not like he needs MIC money anymore. L0oniX May 2014 #72
Brava, babylonsister. sheshe2 May 2014 #73
Wow. ucrdem May 2014 #77
When he ENACTS "the most anti-war foreign policy doctrine in decades", Doctor_J May 2014 #102
Yup. Weren't we supposed to see the "real" Obama after he won his second term... truebrit71 May 2014 #106
Some of us were afraid of that very thing Doctor_J May 2014 #108
Doesn't he understand the point of foreign policy is to identify a list of evil nations tclambert May 2014 #109
Unfortunately this is, IMHO, just window dressing............ Swede Atlanta May 2014 #113
as if. KG May 2014 #115
I'm not going to argue policy or anything else with the Obama haters here; YOU DON'T LISTEN ANYWAY IrishAyes May 2014 #117
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Obama just announced the ...