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CTyankee

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103. there you go again, hack. Maybe...just think outside the box of what we need here with this

Wed May 28, 2014, 08:07 PM

May 2014

problem...giving up and saying "oh, I dunno..." doesn't cut it..be part of the solution, not the problem.

BTW, what is YOUR solution?

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You are correct, gun legislation wont work... [View all] randys1 May 2014 OP

You can use the war on drugs as your model nt hack89 May 2014 #1

Ah yes Jimmy Carter's wonderful war on drugs warrant46 May 2014 #76

Don't you mean Richard Nixon?? Ghost in the Machine May 2014 #83

Thanks for the proper education to clear up my ignorance warrant46 May 2014 #92

yes, guns are just like drugs...it's impossible, I tell you, impossible! CTyankee May 2014 #97

More police, more police powers, more police abuse - it definitely can be done hack89 May 2014 #100

there you go again, hack. Maybe...just think outside the box of what we need here with this CTyankee May 2014 #103

There are many reasonable things we can do hack89 May 2014 #106

I know you don't support registration and an AWB. What DO you support? CTyankee May 2014 #125

UBCs, magazine size limits, gun owner licensing, storage laws - I support them all. hack89 May 2014 #127

excellent. what action are you taking to get these laws passed? CTyankee May 2014 #134

Voting for Dems. nt hack89 May 2014 #136

glad you do at least that. I'm relieved. CTyankee May 2014 #138

I am not a "me too" poster hack89 May 2014 #139

please don't misunderstand and don't also be condescending to your fellow DUers who have CTyankee May 2014 #140

You were mentioning not being condescending? hack89 May 2014 #141

oy, you interpret what i said as a condemnation ofyour liking to post gun threads. I said no such CTyankee May 2014 #142

ok nt hack89 May 2014 #143

Do you understand the Democratic party position on the 2A? hack89 May 2014 #2

Party positions are subject to change Hugabear May 2014 #4

if you want to eliminate firearms Abq_Sarah May 2014 #6

Nope...read the constitution, read the militia acts of 1792... joeybee12 May 2014 #7

I think I will read the party platform instead. Nt hack89 May 2014 #9

I have educated myself Abq_Sarah May 2014 #12

So the term "well regulated militia" has no meaning at all then? Hugabear May 2014 #14

Sure it has a meaning. beevul May 2014 #23

Nope, just enforce the Bill of Rights. nt valerief May 2014 #77

A party that changes with the times is a party not worth respecting derby378 May 2014 #10

Who's talking about "selling out" Hugabear May 2014 #13

Besides 2A, Sissyk May 2014 #107

I think our positions on race and homosexuality have evolved Hugabear May 2014 #147

I don't disagree that our positions on race and homosexuality Sissyk May 2014 #149

True, funny how lockstep is now demanded treestar May 2014 #69

Why? Our party nominated Clinton and Obama and we got them as Presidents... CTyankee May 2014 #101

Yep, and that same president appointed TWO Supreme Court justices who are AGAINST CTyankee May 2014 #98

Do you understand that the 2A and Heller are not what is stopping gun control? hack89 May 2014 #104

Public polling shows strong support for gun safety laws. CTyankee May 2014 #122

For some gun safety laws hack89 May 2014 #124

work with the NRA? CTyankee May 2014 #126

The NRA worked with congress after the Va Tech shooting hack89 May 2014 #128

I'm not insulting you and I hope we can find some common ground. CTyankee May 2014 #135

You have to pass the draconian gun laws before a future SCOTUS could uphold them. badtoworse May 2014 #105

In a Senate where the definition of a majority of a 100 member body is 60 votes... CTyankee May 2014 #123

The party should follow the members, not the other way around. n/t PowerToThePeople May 2014 #130

How do you know that they didn't? hack89 May 2014 #131

it does not matter PowerToThePeople May 2014 #133

We need to make pariahs out of gun owners. upaloopa May 2014 #3

You have a pretty big brush with which you are painting. Jenoch May 2014 #8

Yes it is the only way to get through to you upaloopa May 2014 #17

I think you'll have as much luck as Fred Phelps in getting your point across... NutmegYankee May 2014 #26

Normal decent people don't accumulate a bunch of guns or walk among us with guns. Hoyt May 2014 #51

So how do you feel about a picture released by Obama of him skeet shooting? Travis_0004 May 2014 #52

Bet it wasn't his gun, and it's not the kind of gun that has Hoyt May 2014 #53

I don't need help it is happening now because upaloopa May 2014 #61

Oh Really? NutmegYankee May 2014 #68

Good luck with that hack89 May 2014 #11

It has already started thanks to you upaloopa May 2014 #18

"Just you wait" the motto of gun control for 20 years hack89 May 2014 #19

I would hope gun fanciers would champion it. Hoyt May 2014 #54

I support reasonable gun control hack89 May 2014 #55

Not in a gunner paradigm sure. But sensible to the upaloopa May 2014 #60

Ok. Nt hack89 May 2014 #63

Why oppose registration? awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #64

Car registration is a taxation scheme not related to safety hack89 May 2014 #65

I quit playing 20 questions with gunners upaloopa May 2014 #59

Bansalot is more your speed - no dissent, no thought required. Nt hack89 May 2014 #62

2/3s of guns are bought by just 7% of the population Nevernose May 2014 #22

How can you know? Lurker Deluxe May 2014 #43

I agree...Americans are childish when it comes to guns randys1 May 2014 #44

Good luck in your endeavor. IronGate May 2014 #50

So... culture war against guns and their owners. krispos42 May 2014 #67

There is no culture war against guns and their owners. Hoyt May 2014 #70

And so all gun owners must be shunned. krispos42 May 2014 #108

To preserve your "right" to amass and carry guns, we have to put up with these tragedies. Hoyt May 2014 #114

And... deflection. krispos42 May 2014 #119

What law is being proposed that would have kept a gun out of his hands? Sissyk May 2014 #109

He bought three legally. Hoyt May 2014 #113

Yep Duckhunter935 May 2014 #115

Howsabout getting serious no matter how much you guys whine. Hoyt May 2014 #116

Howsabout answering his question? badtoworse May 2014 #117

just asking a question Duckhunter935 May 2014 #118

Thanks for the answer. Sissyk May 2014 #120

Open carry will do just that HockeyMom May 2014 #132

I think it will have to be an economic cost. Turbineguy May 2014 #5

That's not the way the 2nd Amendment is interpreted, though LittleBlue May 2014 #15

I wonder how many have died from gunshots since I posted this an hour ago randys1 May 2014 #16

Can't formulate a coherent thought oh NO. Nt hack89 May 2014 #20

Yeah, I am the one who wants to stop unecessary murder and I am incoherent randys1 May 2014 #25

So do I hack89 May 2014 #27

I am not at all special, it does not take a special person to observe that guns kill people randys1 May 2014 #30

And childish rants and cartoonish world views are not going to solve the problem either hack89 May 2014 #33

Take your insults elsewhere, I am a liberal, I only want to talk to other liberals randys1 May 2014 #36

Echo chambers are the incubator for real change? hack89 May 2014 #39

Nah, I just like talking to mature people who have outgrown their need for a toy that kills randys1 May 2014 #40

Got it. Nt hack89 May 2014 #42

How many have died in alcohol-related deaths? Adrahil May 2014 #21

Alcohol isnt designed to kill randys1 May 2014 #24

So the actual number of death is not the issue? hack89 May 2014 #28

What are you talking about? randys1 May 2014 #29

You dismiss alcohol related deaths even though it kills and harms just as many people as guns hack89 May 2014 #31

Dismiss? No i dismissed ALCOHOL because it is not DESIGNED to kill as guns are randys1 May 2014 #32

So accidental deaths are less important? Ok. Nt hack89 May 2014 #34

Pretty funny guy, making light of thousands of deaths each year with tools designed to kill randys1 May 2014 #35

Deaths are deaths. We should start at the top of the list of things that kill hack89 May 2014 #38

The CDC estimates 88,000 deaths attributed to excessive drinking annually. Adrahil May 2014 #58

I'm not sure that matters to people killed by the drunk. Adrahil May 2014 #57

Actually, 3 were with a knife. /nt pintobean May 2014 #37

You think he might have subdued them with his guns and used the knives to avoid noise? Hoyt May 2014 #71

Maybe he was a knife fancier. pintobean May 2014 #72

Nope, knives did not give him a sense of power. Hoyt May 2014 #73

It was a joke, Hoyt. /nt pintobean May 2014 #74

Oh, I laughed, but because it was another attempt by gunners to minimize this tragedy. Hoyt May 2014 #75

By stating a fact? pintobean May 2014 #80

Do we do all that we can to prevent highway deaths? upaloopa May 2014 #148

Good luck. You couldn't even get Democrats to repeal the second. nt Demo_Chris May 2014 #41

And that is the problem randys1 May 2014 #45

Absolutely mwrguy May 2014 #46

You are definitely a good example of why gun ownership should not be universal. nt Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #47

Now that makes sense, the person who thinks guns are dangerous is the person who should NOT randys1 May 2014 #48

You're very funny Lurks Often May 2014 #49

LOL ! Ban crime if you think bans are the answer ! LOL ! ...... NM_Birder May 2014 #56

Nah, you guys are right, lets do next to nothing and your kids and my grandkids can continue to randys1 May 2014 #91

BAN EVERYTHING ! it's the only way to protect the kids. NM_Birder May 2014 #150

So, you're going for their guns. krispos42 May 2014 #66

No, we will not stop mocking you, you see people like me who dont have to answer to randys1 May 2014 #79

In your dictatorship going on in your own mind, Sissyk May 2014 #110

Right. It's time to enforce the Bill of Rights. valerief May 2014 #78

Comma Sissyk May 2014 #112

? valerief May 2014 #121

Can we blame you when Democrats become a permanent minority party? Taitertots May 2014 #81

So countries with little to no guns have high violent crime? randys1 May 2014 #82

No, there are countries with draconian gun laws that have high violent crime. Taitertots May 2014 #84

Now I am lost, i say no guns, and you wont have people dying from guns, you say that is wrong? randys1 May 2014 #86

You have not expressed a coherent plan to get to "no guns". Taitertots May 2014 #87

You are making statements as if they are fact, why dont you just say the following randys1 May 2014 #88

Why don't you come up with a coherent plan to get what you want? Then we can discuss it's merits Taitertots May 2014 #89

Again with the allegation as if it was fact... randys1 May 2014 #90

What is your plan when millions of people don't want to do that? Taitertots May 2014 #93

What did we do when millions didnt want to get rid of slavery? randys1 May 2014 #94

You don't have a coherent plan for the millions of people who won't do what you want Taitertots May 2014 #95

He has lots of plans Lurks Often May 2014 #99

So we should go to war.. Killing people... To reduce violence? IoNP May 2014 #96

You're not even selling your plan here. badtoworse May 2014 #102

You mean like Canada? CTyankee May 2014 #146

Ban teh GUNZ!!!!11!11 aikoaiko May 2014 #85

As a gun owner I breathe a giant sigh of relief when I see "eliminate ALL guns" aikoaiko May 2014 #111

Agreed, like a child, when you tell them you want to take their dangerous toy from them randys1 May 2014 #137

The NRA likes it too badtoworse May 2014 #144

Agreed, adult/responsible thinking like mine will ALWAYS cause childish people like NRA members randys1 May 2014 #145

I agree. n/t PowerToThePeople May 2014 #129