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56. Obama signed the legislation and pushed for it

Wed May 28, 2014, 10:18 PM

May 2014

but it was the Dem house and Senate that wrote the bills in 2009. So Obama doesn't get all the credit; most of it goes to the US electorate that elected him and other Dems in Nov. 2008.

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Ok, I'm stepping into the Snowden discussion for the first time... [View all] ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 OP

I wonder if people said that to Patrick Henry.. grasswire May 2014 #1

Oh yeah. Comrade Snowie's just like Patrick Henry. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #3

......and John Adams and Thomas Jefferson...... Cali_Democrat May 2014 #6

and don't forget the bebe jesus.... Whisp May 2014 #7

lol treestar May 2014 #12

Can you say "Patrick Henry" in Russian? Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #15

History will tell the tale. grasswire May 2014 #14

You're right about one thing. We'll all be dead. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #19

Snowden is no John Adams, Thomas Jefferson or Patrick Henry karynnj May 2014 #18

He didn't swear an oath. He signed an employment contract with Booz Allen Luminous Animal May 2014 #29

That was not his only job and he had a security clearance karynnj May 2014 #38

His oath was to Constitution. What he signed was an employment agreement. Luminous Animal May 2014 #62

Geez, man! Get a grip! Maedhros May 2014 #41

Indeed. Though FYI, I am a woman. Luminous Animal May 2014 #63

I was imagining that post in the voice of a crazed Scotsman. Maedhros May 2014 #64

I'm of a mind that crazed Scotswomen will save the world. Luminous Animal May 2014 #65

I would not doubt it! [n/t] Maedhros May 2014 #66

PAtrick Henry weren't no Double Naught Spy! MohRokTah May 2014 #34

Isn't he Paul Revere??? nt msanthrope May 2014 #47

Well we don't know what Greenwald is holding back el_bryanto May 2014 #2

You forget that it was a major issue from late 2007 until August 2008 karynnj May 2014 #21

Hurt us, by exposing our bad acts. Maedhros May 2014 #42

So good of you -- karynnj May 2014 #46

I'll buy the shift in foreign policy when I see it happen. Maedhros May 2014 #49

some people give up their lives Enrique May 2014 #4

That's my point though, the NSA thing just doesn't seem to have been worth it. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #9

The NSA disagrees with you. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #5

I understand what you are saying. Skidmore May 2014 #8

Great comment, Skidmore. Thank you. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #11

I know the feeling. I don't trust any side on this topic. arcane1 May 2014 #28

The very reasons why I don't often respond to the Skidmore May 2014 #33

With no guarantee that the Russians will always let you live there treestar May 2014 #10

I'm guessing the backstory would do John Le Carre proud. ucrdem May 2014 #13

If Snowden accomplished anything it was to wake people up.......... wandy May 2014 #16

When it came out of the shadows it wasn't such a mess anymore ucrdem May 2014 #17

I don't think I understand how it isn't such a mess anymore......... wandy May 2014 #20

It is not every phone conversation --- it is the billing record of the call karynnj May 2014 #22

So I am told. Ho Hum.............. wandy May 2014 #24

rt.com -- reason enough not to click karynnj May 2014 #25

I could be snark and say something like Fox is the only reliable source of news....... wandy May 2014 #27

Or for that matter, why... Jamaal510 May 2014 #40

Ya know, I did forget to mention that............ wandy May 2014 #45

There's a reason rt.com ain't allowed in LBN. Just sayin' Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #35

LBN? OK, I give up, whats LBN? Other than that.............. wandy May 2014 #43

LBN = Late Breaking News. randome May 2014 #48

I can see why one would not want RT there......... wandy May 2014 #57

it's not a mess anymore Enrique May 2014 #36

Obama signed the legislation and pushed for it ucrdem May 2014 #56

Guy blows whistle ... GeorgeGist May 2014 #23

In his books Walter Lord noted that on the Titanic.... Pholus May 2014 #26

Excellent post. scarletwoman May 2014 #51

Quick, somebody call him a misogynist! mindwalker_i May 2014 #30

Greenwald is going to explicitly name names Aerows May 2014 #31

No one has a problem with what he disclosed domestically. Benton D Struckcheon May 2014 #32

You make up stories as well as any contributor to Faux News. BillZBubb May 2014 #37

I deal only in facts. Benton D Struckcheon May 2014 #39

I will feel free to ignore you, forever. Maedhros May 2014 #44

there was clearly an overwhelming benefit to russia pitohui May 2014 #50

He even hates leakers, as when he said they should be shot in the balls. randome May 2014 #52

his supporters dont want to visit the racist anti-liberal elephant in the room pitohui May 2014 #53

There was a benefit for Russia, but also to Glen Greenwald. Why he did not wait until he was in a lostincalifornia May 2014 #55

snowden is not as smart as many paint him. He should have secured an asylum in a country first that lostincalifornia May 2014 #54

how do you know he didn't pitohui May 2014 #58

That is possible lostincalifornia May 2014 #61

I will alert the media!!! nt Logical May 2014 #59

Please explain. Thank you. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #60