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38. NBC News and Greenwald have a financial deal, detailed above. I'm sure Snowden will do just fine.

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #34)

Wed May 28, 2014, 10:20 PM

May 2014

Lots of claims.....and no proof offered.

Discharge papers???

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*********The Official "It's Not About Meeeee" Snowden Interview Live Thread************* [View all] msanthrope May 2014 OP

Turn on NBC--some dude is trying to twerk and be funny. What the Fuck?? nt msanthrope May 2014 #1

Okay--it's another show. Sadly, the remote was under my dog's ass. This made a change, however, msanthrope May 2014 #2

For my SOTU live blog, I highlight the incoming Senators, House Members, SCOTUS, etc..... msanthrope May 2014 #3

For my SOTU Live blog, I also usually do the response....this was Marco Rubio.... msanthrope May 2014 #4

Excellent thread on the financial connections between Greenwald and NBC News--- msanthrope May 2014 #5

Oooohhhhh...commercial for NBC John Malkovich show. Looks Good. nt msanthrope May 2014 #6

Brian Williams has taken on the color of John Boehner..... nt msanthrope May 2014 #7

OMG. Someone dyed him orange??? greatauntoftriplets May 2014 #8

It might be the lighting. nt msanthrope May 2014 #10

Williams opens "Snowden came armed with talking points." nt msanthrope May 2014 #9

In other words, Williams wasn't allowed to ask really hard questions, I bet. randome May 2014 #11

Well, the media deal that Greenwald and NBC have may preclude any "surprises." Follow the money! nt msanthrope May 2014 #20

GG on Brian Williams .. "NBC News� top hagiographer" by Glenn Greenwald/Fucking Hypocrite Cha May 2014 #175

Shit Charles Johnson nailed him dead on.....nt msanthrope May 2014 #183

Snowden opens with challenge that government must show that he did harm. msanthrope May 2014 #12

Snowden cannot meet the eyes of Williams, constantly looking down to the left. nt msanthrope May 2014 #13

Noticed that too. berni_mccoy May 2014 #18

That is a sure tell. Whisp May 2014 #32

He's got a panoply of tics and tells--very carefully edited out by Poitras, but note that every msanthrope May 2014 #36

well now I'm feeling sorry and scared for the idiot. Whisp May 2014 #45

Williams points out that Snowden's passport WAS PULLED before he got on the plane to Russia. nt msanthrope May 2014 #14

No proof of that offered. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #16

Did Snowden dispute? randome May 2014 #19

Actually, my phone rang right as Williams said that. msanthrope? nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #25

Nope...nt msanthrope May 2014 #29

When the classified information was released, that is exactly what happened. A very stupid thing to lostincalifornia May 2014 #33

The Chinese did not acknowledge the "pull." MADem May 2014 #192

Snowden now disclaiming that he ever had contacts in Russia....took nothing to Russia....Claims msanthrope May 2014 #15

Must have given it to China before he left for Russia... berni_mccoy May 2014 #21

He "handed them off." Bobbie Jo May 2014 #22

Who are you going to trust? randome May 2014 #23

"Snowden stayed at Russian consulate while in Hong Kong" Number23 May 2014 #177

Right--no contacts, but has an FSB lawyer awaiting his arrival. Absolute liar......nt msanthrope May 2014 #184

Bottom line: Once he MADE THE POINT, why continue. n/t UTUSN May 2014 #17

Snowden now tells us what he is---"trained as a spy!" nt msanthrope May 2014 #24

The "totality of my experience."--worked undercover for CIA, worked as a lecturer. nt msanthrope May 2014 #26

Obama said he was a low-level administrator, a "hacker". Why did the president down-play ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #37

Have you noted that Snowden hasn't provided a scrap of proof? nt msanthrope May 2014 #39

Yes, I have. But people usually do not come to interviews with material to backup their ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #55

Why would anyone automatically believe a guy hiding in Russia? randome May 2014 #41

Snowden didn't say the president called him a low-level hacker. The president said that. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #47

I know. I believe the President more than I do Snowden. randome May 2014 #59

EDITED: Neither side is offering any proof of their claims, but I tend to put more faith in the ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #63

He claims he was outside the NSA on 9.11......nt msanthrope May 2014 #27

Anyone find a live stream yet? Whisp May 2014 #28

here m-lekktor May 2014 #43

Thanks! Whisp May 2014 #51

US should not be a "security state." So of course, he joined the CIA. nt msanthrope May 2014 #30

Where else would he get the opportunity to shoot leakers in the balls? randome May 2014 #35

Claiming Special Forces now....nt msanthrope May 2014 #31

Snowden was still talking when he was cut off by commercial break. What did he go ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #34

NBC News and Greenwald have a financial deal, detailed above. I'm sure Snowden will do just fine. msanthrope May 2014 #38

Williams holds an IPhone---what can be done with it???? Snowden claims msanthrope May 2014 #40

Unlikely. The owner would have to allow it. berni_mccoy May 2014 #44

Claims all these things can be done---but gives no proof. nt msanthrope May 2014 #42

Today's show sounds like a true circus. nt Jamaal510 May 2014 #171

Then details what can happen to you if you turn your phone on---you should be AFRAID that someone msanthrope May 2014 #46

Computer programs can get inside your thought process!!! Be afraid!!! nt msanthrope May 2014 #48

And never, ever specifies whether this is being used against illegitimate targets. randome May 2014 #57

Note, he hasn't once claimed to have illegally targeted anyone. Who did he illegally target that msanthrope May 2014 #64

"Are you with someone who is not your wife" - is what SNOWjob is shocked by. nt UTUSN May 2014 #49

Exactly.....nt msanthrope May 2014 #56

Where are those copies of those emails to NSA authorities, Snowden? Whisp May 2014 #60

Since he's a trained spy, in the traditional sense, what's the prob with sex v. spy UTUSN May 2014 #65

He wants Congress to get them. You'd think he might have taken copies with him....or the msanthrope May 2014 #67

Thought forms Bobbie Jo May 2014 #50

He's now decrying how "dirty" the targeting is. Talking about "respect." nt msanthrope May 2014 #52

Exec summary: it's all legal but you still should be very afraid. ucrdem May 2014 #53

Claims he went through channels....claims there's emails. Of course...he kept no copies. nt msanthrope May 2014 #54

Claims he "reported" things.....but has no copies, and filed no actual whistleblower complaints. nt msanthrope May 2014 #58

NBC claims there might be one email to the Office of General Counsel. But Snowden kept no copies. n msanthrope May 2014 #61

"What happens to people who stand up etc." ucrdem May 2014 #62

And he didn't retain a copy?? Bobbie Jo May 2014 #66

Exactly--he forgot to take the evidence that he was a whistleblower.....now, msanthrope May 2014 #68

So--he takes a position to steal documents.....but forgets to steal evidence of whistleblowing. nt msanthrope May 2014 #69

Snowden claims he didn't take info that would cause lives to be at risk....but didn't read msanthrope May 2014 #70

He refuses to answer when he decided to steal documents. randome May 2014 #71

More espionage charges. nt msanthrope May 2014 #73

Now Greenwald is sitting in--nt msanthrope May 2014 #72

Snowden wants others to read what he stole, and take responsibility for harm. nt msanthrope May 2014 #74

If someone came to your house/work and copied your computer files Whisp May 2014 #75

Williams discloses financial relationship with Greenwald. nt msanthrope May 2014 #76

Tell us what you turned over to Xi, Eddie. ucrdem May 2014 #77

SNOWDEN does NOT DENY turning over military secrets--merely promises they won't be published..... msanthrope May 2014 #78

Yeah, that stood out to me, too. randome May 2014 #79

That is the money shot--it means NBC News and other organizations were given military secrets and msanthrope May 2014 #82

Brian Williams ended the segment with the kinfe to Snowden---noting that military secrets were msanthrope May 2014 #80

.... greatauntoftriplets May 2014 #81

Is that like an oath? Or a non-disclosure agreement? randome May 2014 #84

10 fuckin' tons of irony should hit that twit....nt msanthrope May 2014 #94

Snowden: "they won't be published" -- doesn't mean he won't sell them to highest bidder... berni_mccoy May 2014 #86

Or someone who has them now won't have them stolen, sold, etc......nt msanthrope May 2014 #90

He said he gave everything to the journalists... Whisp May 2014 #97

"I'm not going to walk into a jail cell." nt msanthrope May 2014 #83

He claims he has special charges laid against him...that's why he doesn't have to face the law. nt msanthrope May 2014 #85

He can't stand trial because he will be hampered by the law. nt msanthrope May 2014 #87

Claiming "civil disobedience" but without going to jail. nt msanthrope May 2014 #88

"I'm still working for the government." nt msanthrope May 2014 #89

He just didn't say which government (Russian) berni_mccoy May 2014 #92

Now he's Henry Thoreau ucrdem May 2014 #91

Yeah--but unlike them, prison is too good for him. He isn't doing us any good by being in a jail msanthrope May 2014 #93

Excellent point. ucrdem May 2014 #95

"Circumstances trapped me here!" Oh for Christ sake....he just started watching The Wire. nt msanthrope May 2014 #96

"Rights are being challenged" in Russia. nt msanthrope May 2014 #98

Now he wants to talk tee-vee. ucrdem May 2014 #99

Being a patriot means knowing when to pull the plug on entitlements. ucrdem May 2014 #103

He's limited about advocating for rights in Russia because he doesn't speak Russian....nt msanthrope May 2014 #100

He sees himself as a "Patriot." nt msanthrope May 2014 #101

Which doesn't mean supporting programs. Except defense programs. nt ucrdem May 2014 #106

How is he serving his government? He's been so careful with his releases.....nt msanthrope May 2014 #102

"The most trusted journalistic institutions in America." randome May 2014 #104

Holy shit.....I was laughing my ass off at that, too.....nt msanthrope May 2014 #107

OMG--"people have unfairly demonized the NSA!" Make up your mind, Eddie. nt msanthrope May 2014 #105

Ummm.... like HIM? AnnieBW May 2014 #116

Of all the things he misses, he never mentions his girlfriend, who said she was devastated. randome May 2014 #108

Girlfriend may have dumped him. nt msanthrope May 2014 #109

What I'm saying is, it's not the NSA, it's that [indistinct] in the White House ucrdem May 2014 #110

EXACTLY.....that came through, loud and clear. nt msanthrope May 2014 #113

Snowden's motives are irrelevant to me. This is between the USG and those who vote and pay for them merrily May 2014 #111

DU rec... SidDithers May 2014 #112

The person ProSense May 2014 #114

Yeah, he's a real Jason Bourne... AnnieBW May 2014 #115

Thanks for making this thread. Verrrrry interesting. n/t Whisp May 2014 #117

Now listening to the Ambassdor skewing Snowden's lies on the live stream.... msanthrope May 2014 #119

Mitchell dissing Kerry and cuddling Snowden. Whisp May 2014 #123

But then turned around and noted that Snowden is "radicalized." nt msanthrope May 2014 #125

Mitchell just knifed him, though....says possible letter he sent would have been April 2013..... msanthrope May 2014 #131

Maybe Greenwald suggested he send that letter. randome May 2014 #135

This is getting dangerously close to implicating Greenwald. MohRokTah May 2014 #140

Oh no--Glenn is that stupid----if you look at the case he defended msanthrope May 2014 #185

Well, if he did, that was amazingly stupid advice. nt msanthrope May 2014 #153

Now listening to the Ambassador ---who is skewing him over the passport bullshit msanthrope May 2014 #118

Former ambassador notes that Snowden is not "stuck" in Russia--Russia is a sovereign nation, could msanthrope May 2014 #120

Russia could give him citizenship if they'd like. They did it with Gerard Depardieu, after all. MADem May 2014 #190

NOTE--the live stream continues, with snowden being SKEWERED by American Ambassador..... msanthrope May 2014 #121

I'm late to the party but the title "Inside the mind of Edward Snowden" ecstatic May 2014 #122

Andrea Mitchell "He seems to have been radicalized." LIVE STREAM>>>> msanthrope May 2014 #124

Good grief...Andrea, go away! elias49 May 2014 #134

"Snowden is naive and mistaken" about the harm he is caused, and is naive about msanthrope May 2014 #126

"SNOOOWDENNNNN!!!" whatchamacallit May 2014 #127

Jesus fuck, if anything deserves a trigger warning... randome May 2014 #130

Haha sorry whatchamacallit May 2014 #132

Mitchell just revealed something interesting-Snowden claims to have sent a letter in APRIL 2013--- msanthrope May 2014 #128

Snowden went to Hawaii to intentionally leak Whisp May 2014 #129

Look at the time--he sent the letter Mitchell is talking about in April 2013....after he stole. nt msanthrope May 2014 #133

I know...it's almost 11:30 and you're still at it! elias49 May 2014 #137

NBC is still showing the Snowden interview online.....nt msanthrope May 2014 #143

Damn, missed the meltdown because I'm watching the Hawks/Kings game MohRokTah May 2014 #136

How so? elias49 May 2014 #138

Can tell you're a real sports fan. MohRokTah May 2014 #142

Cool. elias49 May 2014 #144

Your sarcasm detector is broken, too. eom MohRokTah May 2014 #145

Well...he did show his ass in a pretty meaningful way. msanthrope May 2014 #146

That was pretty damned stupid since the interview can be used against him in a court. MohRokTah May 2014 #149

That interview is a goldmine for a prosecutor. nt msanthrope May 2014 #162

Ambassador outlining damage to US-- msanthrope May 2014 #139

OMG--now Snowden is talking like an idiot about the 4th amendment---- msanthrope May 2014 #141

not watching it but from i read he sounds like a fucking idiot JI7 May 2014 #147

LOL! ProSense May 2014 #155

Well....he sounds like a person who has read a few books. And that impresses others msanthrope May 2014 #172

Michael Leiter, Breyer's former clerk, is ABSOLUTELY SKEWERING Snowden's 4th amendment claims as msanthrope May 2014 #148

Snowden could not provide NBC News with any examples of wrongdoing!!!! No actual msanthrope May 2014 #150

Really? Wow! Number23 May 2014 #178

No--apparently he forgot to steal proof. nt msanthrope May 2014 #182

!! Number23 May 2014 #189

"He confuses the capability of the NSA with what they're actually doing." randome May 2014 #151

NBC news is noting that he hasn't provided any actual "proof." nt msanthrope May 2014 #154

Williams notes long breaks, loss of train of thought, aphorisms, loss of eye contact in interview msanthrope May 2014 #152

I"ve been trying to watch the aftershow ever since it started but it's frozen :( nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #158

I saw about 10 minutes of it before it froze for me, too. randome May 2014 #163

Can't believe traffic is bad enough to jam it... ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #164

Just froze for me....nt msanthrope May 2014 #166

Well, Big Giant Head said it would be available afterwards. Guess I'll have to watch it later. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #169

So when will the GG Twit fit over this interview start? MohRokTah May 2014 #156

It's entirely possible that Glenn may not realize Eddie fucked up--remember the Putin msanthrope May 2014 #167

So now Snowden is explaining how we should allocate defense funding....to another agency. nt msanthrope May 2014 #157

Pete Williams just debunked Snowden's inane point on the Boston bombings.....nt msanthrope May 2014 #159

Edward comes across as extremely arrogant (or narcissistic?) ecstatic May 2014 #160

He was very well-prepared. I have no doubt his FSB lawyer made sure he was. nt msanthrope May 2014 #165

Pete Williams notes neither Greenwald or Snowden have shown us how the programs are illegal. nt msanthrope May 2014 #161

Great, let's have more of it, it works for my agenda! dgauss May 2014 #168

Goodnight alll---live feed froze for me, and I am tired. nt msanthrope May 2014 #170

This was fun. ucrdem May 2014 #173

Nicely done, msanthrope. Bobbie Jo May 2014 #174

Thanks!! nt msanthrope May 2014 #181

what the hell are you gonna do January 2017; ask yourselves that MisterP May 2014 #176

Celebrate Hillary's inauguration? nt stevenleser May 2014 #187

Going to my third Clinton Inaugural??? nt msanthrope May 2014 #188

Mr "It's Not About Mememememememe" Full of Holes Snowden who Cha May 2014 #179

Thanks for following this and posting, all. Skidmore May 2014 #180

3 Reasons To Doubt Snowden's Claim That He 'Has No Relationship With The Russian Government At All' ProSense May 2014 #186

Holy fucking self kick Batman! L0oniX May 2014 #191