We're really swimming in it now.

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93. This propaganda and spin is a very powerful tool.

It is so powerful it can make a good, kind man support child rape. I kid you not.

Back when the bushes were finishing out their Supreme Court appointment and right after the torture and abuse at Abu Ghraib came out, I had a conversation with a very religious man. He was always calm and collected and he tried to follow a true Christian path. He was kind and loving to his family and believed in charity and forgiveness. He was smart and I enjoyed talking to him.

But when I argued that torture never works at getting the truth, when I explained to him that American soldiers were raping 14 year old boys and calling it interrogation, he said to me that he would rather have 100 little boys raped then one American soldier die.

Three months later, I repeated back what he had said to me and he blushed, ashamed.

He has since moved and I don't have hour long conversations with him anymore. But I will always remember how the propaganda and spin the bushes put out about torture even turned his head.