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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
64. First, your next door neighbor could check to see if you've done something in your past to
Thu May 29, 2014, 01:59 PM
May 2014

keep you from buying a gun. They won't know what, but they will know you did something and are likely a very bad person.

Most importantly, there is no consequence if you do not keep the proper paperwork regarding the transfer and you have no accountability (negative outcome if you don't do it correctly).

In fact, let's say you sell a gun to someone who shoots up a school. The police come to your house and say we think you may have sold this gun to someone and we need to make sure you did it properly.

We already know that many gunners on DU have said if their most favored guns (the ones that can kill a lot of folks) were outlawed, they'd keep them and say, "oh I had it on a boat that sunk." So what are most gunners are likely to say, "I did check their background, but I'm sorry I have no record of the transaction, my dog ate it or some such bull." You have no accountability like an FFL who could lose their license.

Finally, the fact that many say it is an inconvenience to have to go to an FFL indicates that gunners don't give a crud, they aren't will to make a little effort to ensure a proper background check. I believe most gun fanciers will sell a gun for a fistful of cash without regard to the buyer's background. In fact, gun fanciers often set up a table at gun shows and sell some guns without a background check, citing the law that does not require a casual seller to check backgrounds. Then, you'll turn around and claim there is no loophole in the law. The fact that it costs you $30 is a small price to pay if you really give a dang.

My opinion is that the majority of gun owners don't care, and your post indicates that.

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K & R. n/t FSogol May 2014 #1
Superb! Baitball Blogger May 2014 #2
God bless The Onion. Now and always. Paladin May 2014 #3
Also: Don't make stupid, useless laws that won't save lives. aikoaiko May 2014 #4
'No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens Orrex May 2014 #7
Was this supposed to be a response to my reply? aikoaiko May 2014 #9
Nor did you propose any ways that it might be Orrex May 2014 #10
Sure... aikoaiko May 2014 #13
I think every fucking asshat open carrying in a fast food joint is potentially dangerous Skittles May 2014 #25
I'm not as afraid of people with guns as you and others are, but I... aikoaiko May 2014 #33
I AM NOT AFRAID OF GUNS Skittles May 2014 #48
+1000 heaven05 May 2014 #57
Responsible gun owners can do a background check now using an FFL, but they won't. Hoyt May 2014 #26
It is inconvenient, some expense, and there is a papertrail aikoaiko May 2014 #32
Why not just start enforcing current NICS checks? metalbot May 2014 #42
I'm totally on board with that. aikoaiko May 2014 #43
First, your next door neighbor could check to see if you've done something in your past to Hoyt May 2014 #64
A few Orrex May 2014 #34
Of course you are free to wish for what you want. aikoaiko May 2014 #36
I appreciate the reciprocated snark. Orrex May 2014 #37
I was curious about your stance since you wondered about mine. aikoaiko May 2014 #41
Ok. Orrex May 2014 #45
There is a point of agreement between the NRA and those who want more restrictions aikoaiko May 2014 #58
"but I'm not confident that other killers give off warning signals Lonusca May 2014 #71
Are we only worried about mass shooters? Orrex May 2014 #72
It seems the mass shootings are Lonusca May 2014 #73
You could start with the easy ones metalbot May 2014 #44
I like that. Orrex May 2014 #47
"...a few for starters." No wonder controllers fail. nt Eleanors38 May 2014 #49
By "controllers" you no doubt mean Orrex May 2014 #52
No, those just getting "started." nt Eleanors38 May 2014 #53
You don't know how negotiation is supposed to work, then? Orrex May 2014 #55
I'll get "started" on those negotiations right away... Eleanors38 May 2014 #62
Hey, you're the gun advocate. You tell me. Orrex May 2014 #63
Done so many X before... Eleanors38 May 2014 #66
So... Pretty much exactly what I said, but short on specifics. Orrex May 2014 #70
Nope. A foid does not reveal you have guns.... Eleanors38 May 2014 #74
more than you Duckhunter935 May 2014 #76
Good advice. Now, let's pass some sensible UK style gun control that will save lives. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #59
Fucking Brilliant BrotherIvan May 2014 #5
To be fair, they can't help it. Maedhros May 2014 #12
I know and it's sad BrotherIvan May 2014 #20
Exactly. There are gun fanciers on DU who have tried to compare their Hoyt May 2014 #27
I was taken aback at the use of "civil rights" today BrotherIvan May 2014 #29
‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens klook May 2014 #6
Brilliant...knr joeybee12 May 2014 #8
too complicated Leme May 2014 #11
What does it say... iandhr May 2014 #14
K&R billh58 May 2014 #15
1994 JJChambers May 2014 #16
Convince voters that someone will always be there to save them seveneyes May 2014 #17
yes, they do need to consider the paranoia aspect Skittles May 2014 #18
But the NRA and the right-wing billh58 May 2014 #22
People like me? seveneyes May 2014 #23
THINK? Skittles May 2014 #24
No, convince them that they'll be safer with gun control. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #61
LOL. That's cool Dpm12 May 2014 #19
I have never seen the Onion be so serious. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #21
Excellent. n/t DirkGently May 2014 #28
We need a REAL Opposition Party. One that ISN'T beholden to the 1% that owns Washington DC!! blkmusclmachine May 2014 #30
+1,000 Scuba May 2014 #38
Why s it that one of the only places we find reason & rationality is from our humorists? baldguy May 2014 #31
Hell yes alfredo May 2014 #35
But guns are sexy. And they make a man feel tough. tclambert May 2014 #39
And the millions of gun-owning women feel...? Eleanors38 May 2014 #51
I remember when there was talk of a total ban on hand guns. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #40
So do 2A activists. Sums it up, right? nt Eleanors38 May 2014 #50
Just watched "The American President" again recently.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #54
Bullied? No, a lot of Democrats lost their collective asses. Eleanors38 May 2014 #60
Actually, it's a myth that Dems lost to the gun issues during the Clinton Years.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #65
Not what NRA claimed. What CLINTON claimed. Eleanors38 May 2014 #67
it was Bill Clinton who said his gun control efforts aikoaiko May 2014 #68
he wanted the Dems to shift to the right so OF COURSE he blamed Liberal stands for the loss.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #69
Nail on the head. davidthegnome May 2014 #46
muy mucho excellente heaven05 May 2014 #56
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #75
"Truther" bullshit n/t arcane1 May 2014 #77
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