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(20,043 posts)First let me say that I agree with the first part that the recent shooter was a freak and had serious issues/a definite hatred of women. I also believe he had other issues going on.
I will tell you the story of my dad. When he married my mom it wasn't his first marriage and he had children from a previous marriage. Young children. Their mother was a horrible woman and mother. Rarely did the support my dad paid go to support the kids. My mom and dad always ended up buying clothes, shoes, and winter coats for them. They really didn't have a choice it was either that or the kids did without.
My dads ex was always dragging him back to court for more support. She was able to do this because her employer paid her one amount on the books and another off--long time family friend--women have to stick together you see. That's what they said.
So, she kept getting more money, the kids kept getting nothing. She was going to the Bahamas and Santa wasn't coming cuz he was sick. She was an asshole about letting them come and visit too. My dad would go over there to see them. One day he went there and saw the youngest 2 years old at the time walking down the street, no shoes with a hot dog in each hand--that was dinner. His 5 year old sister was watching him. Another time, they were locked in a room so their mother could go out.
Finally they went to court to get custody. It took three times--even with the shit happening above. He got 3 of the 5 kids she was able to keep 2 of the older ones. The support stayed the same. Yeah, that's right, same amount for 2 kids as for five.
That woman put my dad and mom through the fucking wringer--and for the most part got what she wanted. The reason; the judge said the kids are always better off with the mother. My mom; a nurse, with her own children wasn't considered. Instead the woman who locked her kids in a fucking closet was thought to be better for the children.
My dad found a few groups of men that had been through the same thing. It was them that helped him finally get custody of the 3 kids. They never went back to their mother. She went to court all the time trying to get them back. THEY didn't want to go back.
Those men didn't hate women they loved their children. That was their focus. If not for them I don't know if my dad would have gotten custody of the my brothers.
I two of my brothers are divorced. One had no issues, one had a hell of time.
When I divorced my first husband the courts were easier on me.
While the courts have gotten better, they still favor women, no question about it.