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42. Quite a number of us were against it then, too

Thu May 29, 2014, 04:21 PM

May 2014

Can you elaborate on what your question means? Are you saying that because you haven't found anyone objecting to revelations of domestic spying under Bush eight years ago (Have you looked for those posts?) that objections now are irrelevant? Or that those objecting now prefer Bush to Obama? Or that it was very wrong under Bush but only sort of wrong under Obama?

I've posted for years about my unfortunate attachment to the superannuated language of our quaint old Constitution, and my inability to trim my ideals to fit this year's (or this administration's) fashion. I seem to recall that one candidate campaigned vigorously in 2008 on a message of "change," but eight years later, we find that in many areas very little has changed. Does that bother you?

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NBC poll on Snowden totally flipped since yesterday. [View all] grasswire May 2014 OP

He's a Traitriot� Capt. Obvious May 2014 #1

your name really suits you Skittles May 2014 #6

Most viewers watch reality shows. Whisp May 2014 #2

Link? The last thing I saw was this from NBC ProSense May 2014 #3

Relax, ProSense Jack Rabbit May 2014 #19

It's not even an NBC poll, it was totally mischaracterized by the OP here. George II May 2014 #28

Ah, the Twitter battle ProSense May 2014 #4

So he shouldn't be afraid to leave Moscow for Progressive dog May 2014 #5

It's not the public think4yourself May 2014 #7

please educate yourself on justice under the charges he faces. grasswire May 2014 #9

hehehehe good 1 nt Leme May 2014 #16

If you believe he'd actually get a fair trial... Dopers_Greed May 2014 #20

A Twitter hashtag poll? MohRokTah May 2014 #8

yak it up grasswire May 2014 #10

HA! MohRokTah May 2014 #11

nah, just the traitor worshiping on DU... uponit7771 May 2014 #13

as an American, I resent your un-American characterization. grasswire May 2014 #15

Would it be better rtracey May 2014 #22

it would be better for him, yes grasswire May 2014 #27

You might not like the way he did it but you have to like the Beltway talking about privacy rights. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #12

absolutely grasswire May 2014 #14

It's like how Occupy got the 1% on the Beltway radar. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #39

yes grasswire May 2014 #41

Wow, Spitfire. Maedhros May 2014 #34

I haven't really gotten into the bickering. Just the issue. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #38

I'm trying to extricate myself from the bickering, hence the ignore list. [n/t] Maedhros May 2014 #40

K & R !!! WillyT May 2014 #17

He is anything *but* sincere and authentic, sadly. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #18

Talking about facades? erronis May 2014 #21

LOL, keep acting like he changed nothing. nt Logical May 2014 #23

where was everybody in 2006 under BUSH when we LEARNED THIS 1ST? pansypoo53219 May 2014 #24

sorry, but that is yesterday's talking point. nt grasswire May 2014 #32

You say that as if we're wasting our time discussing blanket surveillance, Maedhros May 2014 #35

Quite a number of us were against it then, too gratuitous May 2014 #42

I am in the 60 percent riverbendviewgal May 2014 #25

sure grasswire May 2014 #31

It's not an "NBC" poll, it's a poll on the Cleveland NBC affiliate's website... George II May 2014 #26

no, you are wrong grasswire May 2014 #29

I can't find that one anywhere, but I see that many of their affiliates are conducting their own... George II May 2014 #33

I think that's actually pretty sad. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #30

It's not real until it's on TV [n/t] Maedhros May 2014 #36

half empty half full cup when measuring public interest/concern carolinayellowdog May 2014 #37

K&R woo me with science May 2014 #43