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50. the question, did he write any emails alleging wrongdoing

Thu May 29, 2014, 05:47 PM

May 2014

or even hinting at it?

I don't trust the NSA's word that this is his only email, but I don't trust him either (they're all professional liars or they would not be good at their jobs)

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Snowden email fell short of NSA criticism [View all] ProSense May 2014 OP

But, his support is through the roof since last night. I know, because I heard it on the internetz. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #1

are you going to post your poll from JANUARY again? nt grasswire May 2014 #2

Do you have one more recent? I think you'll find nothing's changed. Unless you want to brag... Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #18

Everybody knows counting tweets with specific hastags is the single most scientific polling method. MohRokTah May 2014 #15

Well, isn't that how everybody does it? Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #17

Actually...this fucks him in a court of law...a moderately intelligent msanthrope May 2014 #3

Greenwald on Snowden's e-mail claim: "Biggest news from NBC/Snowden interview" ProSense May 2014 #4

OMG....so an EO can't override a law? That was his question? Graduate from msanthrope May 2014 #6

LOL! n/t ProSense May 2014 #7

but.......... grasswire May 2014 #25

Okay...so what you are saying is that after he met with GG, and stole documents, he was sending msanthrope May 2014 #29

purposes? grasswire May 2014 #30

Quite honestly the idea Egnever May 2014 #44

Snowden could have said, "In what regards, Brian?" and his defenders ... 11 Bravo May 2014 #99

The NSA response seemed pretty straightforward JaneyVee May 2014 #5

He stole 1.7 million documents and ProSense May 2014 #9

That was his Super Secret Double Naught Spy plan all along MohRokTah May 2014 #16

he didn't keep the documents, either. grasswire May 2014 #23

. ProSense May 2014 #28

hey, that's his explanation grasswire May 2014 #31

So he's the one who thinks he's "clever" for not having any proof of his claims? ProSense May 2014 #33

Why didn't he ask GG or LP to hold all his emails, then? MADem May 2014 #57

"I mean, come on--if he made numerous complaints, why not keep a record of them?".. Cha May 2014 #88

He's pretty fucking compromised by being stuck in Russia for the rest of his life! randome May 2014 #72

the whole thing is just embarrassing , he reminds me of o'keefe JI7 May 2014 #8

It's ridiculous, and ProSense May 2014 #10

Well, Greenwald does have a book to sell. baldguy May 2014 #76

And, why wouldn't GG claim the email is big news? He's been blowing everything else out Cha May 2014 #89

But the NSA said there were no records of Snowden reporting his concerns. Octafish May 2014 #11

This is a question about training. Snowden got caught in a lie. n/t ProSense May 2014 #12

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #22

From the OP: ProSense May 2014 #27

I don't call a characterization from "The Hill" as "facts. grasswire May 2014 #32

No, the only "facts" are pro-Snowden hype. n/t ProSense May 2014 #43

What do you think about the NSA spying on America? Octafish May 2014 #36

I think we have no evidence of it. We now have claims from a proven liar. nt stevenleser May 2014 #85

He is not a liar. 840high May 2014 #92

He's a liar. He said he raised his concerns in an email to the OGC. Now he is backing away from that stevenleser May 2014 #94

Someone alerted on your post, claiming your link crashed their computer... SidDithers May 2014 #101

Yeah, I responded to that person below. It's an official government website stevenleser May 2014 #104

Snowden didn't get caught in a lie. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #73

Yes, he did. n/t ProSense May 2014 #74

So you were wrong the first 58 times you called him a liar. But this time, by golly, you'll win. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #75

Snowden ProSense May 2014 #77

Links, by Christ. I demand links. DisgustipatedinCA May 2014 #81

Read the email. He didn't 'report' anything. randome May 2014 #13

Did you read the email Snowden's talked about or the one the NSA released? Octafish May 2014 #38

"The email Snowden's talked about"? Where is it documented? The guy is a liar. stevenleser May 2014 #79

THAT WEBSITE CRASHED MY COMPUTER. Octafish May 2014 #100

For Juror # 4 Octafish May 2014 #102

That is an official government website. If you had a crash, the issue is your computer. stevenleser May 2014 #103

This is NOT a "report" uponit7771 May 2014 #24

So? Snowden is concerned the NSA is illegally spying on America and Snowden's the problem? Octafish May 2014 #39

Spy agencies AND Snowden can BOTH be the problem it's not either or ... and with Snowden uponit7771 May 2014 #71

The only suggestion about NSA illegal spying is now coming from a documented liar. nt stevenleser May 2014 #87

Yes, because the nation's press corpse has zero interest in that part of the story. Octafish May 2014 #98

see my post #25 nt grasswire May 2014 #26

''I don't think it means what you think it means.'' Octafish May 2014 #41

Did you read the email Snowden is trying to pass off as "reporting his concerns"? stevenleser May 2014 #78

Laurel and Hardy stuff. Whisp May 2014 #14

it's like republicans with benghazi JI7 May 2014 #19

You are right. It's Ben-NSA-hazi! Whisp May 2014 #20

Call the Mounties! grasswire May 2014 #21

oh, that's embarrassing nt geek tragedy May 2014 #34

Lol. The title of the post should be: "Email supports Snowden's claims" Vattel May 2014 #35

that's not raising issues of illegal conduct geek tragedy May 2014 #37

He claimed that in emails to NSA lawyers, Vattel May 2014 #40

that's not whistleblowing. he's asking basic admin law questions geek tragedy May 2014 #42

Did he say that every email he ever wrote accused the NSA of illegality? Vattel May 2014 #46

the question, did he write any emails alleging wrongdoing geek tragedy May 2014 #50

He's now claiming his real concerns were in an email to the NSA Signals Intelligence Directorate stevenleser May 2014 #86

"the email was sent months after his initial contacts with Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald " ProSense May 2014 #45

Does the fact that he wrote the email after he already had an interest in leaking things Vattel May 2014 #47

Yes, and it also gives rise to other questions. n/t ProSense May 2014 #48

What does it contradict? Vattel May 2014 #49

His other ProSense May 2014 #51

Sorry, but there is no contradiction there. Vattel May 2014 #55

Sure there is, you just refuse to see it ProSense May 2014 #58

So tell me what the contradiction is. Vattel May 2014 #61

Question: Given that it was clearly a training-related question, ProSense May 2014 #52

Are you serious? Go back and read my post and the email and what Snowden said. Vattel May 2014 #54

Yes, I'm "serious." ProSense May 2014 #56

The question is quite obviously a question about the NSA's interpretation of its legal authorities. Vattel May 2014 #59

Here, ProSense May 2014 #62

Awesome, the email itself. Vattel May 2014 #64

"The training included information..." ProSense May 2014 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author Vattel May 2014 #68

Okay, so I guess in your view NSA training cannot include information about Vattel May 2014 #70

You would think a guy who is smarter than the average bear (US or Russian, presumably), would have MADem May 2014 #53

Really.. but, why would Snowden save this email that the NSA released? Because it doesn't Cha May 2014 #90

This does not disprove my theory. n/t itsrobert May 2014 #60

You have a "theory"? What is it? n/t ProSense May 2014 #63

That Snowden is an idiot. n/t itsrobert May 2014 #65

Do you ProSense May 2014 #67

The most naive man in the first half of the 21st century. randome May 2014 #80

Feinstein: Snowden never voiced NSA concerns ProSense May 2014 #69

Feinstein - lol 840high May 2014 #93

I disagree with your OP title and the title of the article. stevenleser May 2014 #82

He asked a question, goddamnit! What more do you need to know? randome May 2014 #83

Now he's claiming that the OGC email wasn't the important one, it was the Signals Directorate email. stevenleser May 2014 #84

I suspect the NSA will be releasing it shortly. joshcryer May 2014 #95

Ah, so that's why this email was released Number23 May 2014 #97

Ah, but what was the Cha May 2014 #91

Dude and his "revelations" have been a big disappointment. BenzoDia May 2014 #96