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rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
32. No, not NC
Fri May 30, 2014, 01:27 PM
May 2014

Sorry to hear about all the problems you have had.

IMO, one news report nailed it this morning when they quoted someone connected with
to the VA....we don't need more money, we need a change in culture. It's a phrase I've heard multiple times in relation to VA..."deeply rooted cultural problems within the organization".

To get that done...there needs to be accountability on all levels. From the top level execs down to frontline staff (nurses, techs, ward clerks, housekeeping).
Whenever I have concerns about inappropriate behavior of my co workers I make sure I notify supervisors via email. Mainly because I don't want to hear later on from them if them problems get worse "gosh, I had no idea". Yeah, you did...there's an electronic paper trail.

VA is very good at shell games to make their numbers look good.. Example. Our ER staff and bed control have gotten heat and bad PR about ER wait time. What do they do? They rush the vets to the wards that are severely understaffed. So we often get back to back to back admissions even though we are begging them to space those admissions by 30 minutes or an hour because the care of each new admissions AND the current patients on the ward is being compromised. Their response?
"We gotta get our board and numbers cleaned down here". Translated that means "we gotta make it look good here because this is where we are getting the worst PR".
Problem is..their fake fix is done at the expense of the vets already in the hospital. And no one cares.

They don't take into acuity levels off those sick vets in the hospital wards. Nurses try to explain it..."we have very sick vets up here, staffing is bad". No one cares. All they want to do is "clean up their boards"' downstairs.

I've seen the VA system play their little shell game...they can make the numbers and stats being focused on look very good....and they are very good at hiding how they really "fixed" those stats.

As far as getting rid of the offenders in the system? We need immediate supervisors who have the backbone to document, document, document each time a frontline worker gives bad care, is abusive to fellow co workers----workplace bullying is rampant in the VA system. In all departments. The documentation is needed so when those workers use the words "I'm going to the union!!" management can be ready with their stack of documents detailing the worker's write ups.
Right now, given the bullying done in the system, the good workers are often scared to write up or report the bad ones because it will go no where in the system. Until the good ones start seeing others being held accountable, nothing will change.

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I think the VA just can't handle the load of patients. upaloopa May 2014 #1
Like I said, the Republicans did it intentionally.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #2
Could very well be upaloopa May 2014 #3
Not true. maced666 May 2014 #19
How do you know this? upaloopa May 2014 #29
I'm curious as hell, too.......... CatWoman May 2014 #47
Exactly, for 30 years... prairierose May 2014 #4
One of the first things the Bush Administration did was close on base schools.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #9
+1000000 Jamastiene May 2014 #53
The unspoken truth: moondust May 2014 #12
This. ^^^^^^ libnnc May 2014 #39
There's a simple fix madville May 2014 #5
Competition isn't always the answer. That goes back to thinking of health care as a product.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #8
Put the money into TRICARE madville May 2014 #10
I have yet to hear someone explain,.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #14
You can have all the money in the world.. Ballast_Point May 2014 #15
Why do I have a feeling it's been set up as an adversarial system? Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #18
The last time I left active duty madville May 2014 #20
Figures. It would be SO EASY to fix that too.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #23
Very true rainbow4321 May 2014 #24
That's just depressing... Ballast_Point May 2014 #25
It is.... rainbow4321 May 2014 #36
Talked about this today with my commander... Ballast_Point May 2014 #41
I've been a federal employee madville May 2014 #57
Depressing- how do you fix it? Lee-Lee May 2014 #58
Ding! Ding! Ding!!! rainbow4321 May 2014 #60
Sad- but this explains a lot of my experiences with the VA Lee-Lee May 2014 #27
No, not NC rainbow4321 May 2014 #32
The saddest thing here Lee-Lee May 2014 #37
That's because there is some truth to it madville May 2014 #59
Sounds like there's too much brass hanging with each other instead of working the line. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #30
They are already doing that with vouchers to go to private sector doctors. Jamastiene May 2014 #54
As a vet I would love private care... Ballast_Point May 2014 #6
Wouldn't it be an improvement if madville May 2014 #7
That's pretty much what I was thinking of... Ballast_Point May 2014 #11
All PEOPLE should have that availability - TBF May 2014 #48
Ironically... Oilwellian May 2014 #13
Republicans are the kind of skum to vote against them and then tell them it's the Dems fault.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #16
This should be an OP. n/t Jamastiene May 2014 #55
Of course they are.. thanks Spitfire. nm Cha May 2014 #17
In this case, they failed. maced666 May 2014 #21
Republicans are playing the heroes again in the hearings.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #22
Regardless of how long it has been broken forthemiddle May 2014 #28
Sounds like the VA has too many levels of administration.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #34
No, they didn't. jeff47 May 2014 #51
Author is absolutely correct! nt MaeScott May 2014 #26
Yes, it is political theater to accomplish a couple of their goals. (Think USPS) Hugin May 2014 #31
The Beltway judges the success or failure of a President by how many things get passed.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #38
Precisely. Hugin May 2014 #40
The public "gets it" all right.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #42
Exactly! n/t Jamastiene May 2014 #56
The "funny" thing about the Walter Reed comparison, IIRC... Wounded Bear May 2014 #33
The corporate media sure loves the idea of profit over all else.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #35
To this end the repubs like to put in their Turbineguy May 2014 #43
"Loyal Bushies" became synonymous with nepotism.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #44
It served two purposes Turbineguy May 2014 #45
I don't think any other country in the world would tolerate Republicans. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #46
There are two times Republican like troops sarisataka May 2014 #49
You noticed. It's the same ol' same ol' Grover Norquist ploy. God I hate those people. nt Hekate May 2014 #50
It is the partial privatization of the VA that is causing the problems NOW. Jamastiene May 2014 #52
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